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Old 01-21-2012, 05:39 PM   #31
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The metallic line would be supplemented by the rods.

BTW, some ares require two rods even with the metallic water line electrode.
But what part is the metallic line playing in all of this?

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The metal line would be an electrode, same as a rod.
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Would that be a grounding electrode?
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Would that be a grounding electrode?
Why are you laughing so much. It is kind of sad that someone with your supposed experience simply does not get this.


WHAT IS YOUR POINT about the water pipe being an electrode??
Do you own a code book? Can you look something up?
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Why am I laughing so much?
Well first you tell me I dont know what im talking about ,that the water service is not being used as a redundent grounding electrode inside the house.

You said it was only connected to the service to bond the water piping.
Now youre saying that a copper water service can be used as a grouinding electrode for an electrical service in a garage,yeah I think its very funny!
Alright Ill quit laughing and pushing your buttons on this post if everybody agrees to call it quits and get along.
Id say we all have enough experiance on here that we shouldnt have to run to a code book to constantly explain ourselves.
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I believe based on your reading of posts #10 and #13 that you missed something. The bonding of the metallic lines inside the house is to ensure that if they were to become energized that the breaker would trip by having a low impedance path. This would be needed even if the water line from the street is non-metallic.

The 10' metallic line in contact with the earth that you say you connect to on the street side is to disapate high voltage events like a lightning strike. Neither it nor a ground rod has any part in properly grounding a receptacle or an appliance.
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Well first you tell me I dont know what im talking about ,that the water service is not being used as a redundent grounding electrode inside the house.
The piping inside the house is NOT part of the electrode. It is the water bond.


I am only saying that you are wrong in thinking that a grounding electrode of any kind has anything to do with clearing faults or tripping breakers. I think your statement about the voltage "seeking ground" is what got the ball rolling.

I don't mind a mature discussion like this. If you want out that's fine too.
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