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littleturley99 07-10-2011 09:39 PM

outlets in garage and exterior outlet stopped working
 
I have 3 outlets that stopped working overnight. 2 are in the garage and 1 is outside. The breaker that turns them on and off is on and working because everything else that is on that breaker is on and working. Does anyone have any idea of what could be wrong?

BigGuy01 07-10-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by littleturley99 (Post 683489)
I have 3 outlets that stopped working overnight. 2 are in the garage and 1 is outside. The breaker that turns them on and off is on and working because everything else that is on that breaker is on and working. Does anyone have any idea of what could be wrong?

Do they have buttons between the outlet plug ins?

http://www.instructables.com/image/F...FCI-Outlet.jpg

If so, push the button to reset the outlet, on each outlet. :thumbsup:

A lot of garage outlets are usually GFCI, same with outlets that are outdoors as well. Because of machinery, powertools, etc. that get plugged in. They use GFCI to prevent blowing your houses breaker. so instead they just blow their own breakers.

littleturley99 07-10-2011 10:04 PM

outlets
 
no they don't, they are just your regular plug.

BigGuy01 07-10-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by littleturley99 (Post 683507)
no they don't, they are just your regular plug.

So you have a live feed to each outlet, but when you plug something into either outlet, they aren't powering what you plugged in, correct?

If so, have you removed the outlet cover (unplug anything/everything beforehand) and checked each wire connected to them?

Also if I may ask, what was going on the night they all went "dead"? Where you using powertools or anything?

Cut the power to your garage, and the outside outlets, and check the wires for breaks/rips/melted covering etc.

If wires are fine, take a digital multi-meter, or a volt-meter, cover all but one outlet, and turn power back on, and determine if power is even being supplied to the wires. This will determine if the wires are even hot. If they aren't, then it's the breaker itself.

If the wires are hot, but the outlets just aren't getting power, but the outlets themselves are hooked up properly, turn power back off, (preferably the MAIN power for safety purposes, even if it's not needed, cut ALL power) replace the outlets.

littleturley99 07-10-2011 10:19 PM

I put my tester in them and they have no power.

I have not taken the covers off yet.

There was nothing plugged in them overnight. I went to plug in my radio and weedeater charger and they weren't working. so I checked to make sure they had power and they didn't. So then I went and checked the breaker and it was on. I just found out today which one it is.

BigGuy01 07-10-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by littleturley99 (Post 683516)
I put my tester in them and they have no power.

I have not taken the covers off yet.

There was nothing plugged in them overnight. I went to plug in my radio and weedeater charger and they weren't working. so I checked to make sure they had power and they didn't. So then I went and checked the breaker and it was on. I just found out today which one it is.

First thing I'd do, is cut power, and remove the covers, and look at the wires, and determine if they are properly connected/properly wired. If so, you need to determine if the wires themselves are recieving power. you can do this by renting a voltmeter with a probe that you can place on a wire to determine if it's live. If the wires are live, (receiving power) but the outlets are not powered, then you should replace the outlets. If the wires are not being powered, with the breaker on, then it's the breaker itself.

if ti's the breaker itself, just call an Licensed Electrician. And have them fix your breaker.

ALSO

Make sure there is no part of any exposed wiring (wire with casing removed) touching the bottom or sides of the outlets, unless they are the spots they are supposed to touch. Electricity vibrates, overtime wires can shake loose if they are old enough, or weren't installed tightly enough. Basically with power OFF (ALL POWER CUT OFF) you should be able to have outlet in hand, and pull on the cord with decent force, and nothing comes loose or disconnects. That determines if the wires are secured tightly enough.

WARNING DO NOT HANDLE ELECTRICAL OUTLETS UNLESS POWER IS COMPLETELY CUT OFF.

EDIT

Try resetting the breaker.

joed 07-10-2011 10:35 PM

You have a tripped GFCI. Look around outside or in the garage for master GFCI that controls all of these. It could even be in a bathroom if the house is older.

BigGuy01 07-10-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by joed (Post 683522)
You have a tripped GFCI. Look around outside or in the garage for master GFCI that controls all of these. It could even be in a bathroom if the house is older.

I was thinking the same, but he says they aren't GFCI.

Speedy Petey 07-10-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigGuy01 (Post 683524)
I was thinking the same, but he says they aren't GFCI.

SO? There only needs to be one per circuit.:whistling2:


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Originally Posted by BigGuy01 (Post 683524)
A lot of garage outlets are usually GFCI, same with outlets that are outdoors as well. Because of machinery, powertools, etc. that get plugged in. They use GFCI to prevent blowing your houses breaker. so instead they just blow their own breakers.

And like we stated in the other thread. This is completely wrong with regard to GFI's.

vsheetz 07-10-2011 10:49 PM

Agreed, likely a gfci upstream somewhere is tripped.

BigGuy01 07-10-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 683529)
SO? There only needs to be one per circuit.:whistling2:



And like we stated in the other thread. This is completely wrong with regard to GFI's.

For the circuit to work you may just need one GFCI, each state has different codes required for electrical work. Depending on facility and state, and requirement for the location, such as in my home town, all home garages have individual GFCI outlets, with no main gfci connecting them if it's one of the older homes. If it's one of the newer ones, it'll have both, which the "main" is rarely if ever even tripped depending how it's wired.

then you have the GFCIs for each kitchen outlet, and bathroom outlet, etc.

The OPs said there's nothing GFCI going on, and I'm assuming he's already checked his breaker to make sure the garage indicator isn't tripped.

Speedy Petey 07-10-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigGuy01 (Post 683544)
Depending on facility and state, and requirement for the location, such as in my home town, all home garages have individual GFCI outlets, with no main gfci connecting them if it's one of the older homes.

You know this for a fact? You've seen it in writing?




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Originally Posted by BigGuy01 (Post 683544)
The OPs said there's nothing GFCI going on, and I'm assuming he's already checked his breaker to make sure the garage indicator isn't tripped.

OK. So what about the one he is not seeing or finding?

littleturley99 07-10-2011 11:03 PM

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that was is after all of you wrote that stuff i went ahead and checked the GFCI out lets in the bathroom and they were tripped. I didn't think that would even be connected but whatever. thanks for all of your help, sorry to waste anyones time. thanks.

Speedy Petey 07-10-2011 11:04 PM

No waste at all. Others may have the same issue.

BigGuy01 07-10-2011 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 683550)
You know this for a fact? You've seen it in writing?




OK. So what about the one he is not seeing or finding?

Yes, I've seen it in writing. I was the one who had to rewire my Grandmothers garage, which already had GFCI outlets installed, but needed an outlet moved over several inches.

I had to personally install a new GFCI to connect the other GFCI outlets too, and had to install a new GFCI in the kitchen for her coffee pot, per the cities building code requirements for electrical work.

Regarding one he isn't seeing or finding, I was under the assumption he'd know what kind of outlets are in his house. he's stated there are no GFCI outlets in the garage area. inclduing the outlet outside his garage, which is safe to assume they are on the same circuit. which means it's safe to assume he's already checked the breaker for a blown circuit, and has already looked to reset his breaker.

Every facility is wired different on how they group things. (people make mistakes, such as my own house, where the downstairs bathroom is grouped with the master bedrooms circuit breaker slot) I understand that perfectly, but the OP has given no indication there is anything else out, other than those three outlets.


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