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marly 06-02-2011 05:36 PM

Outlet Box
 
I want to run a 20 AMP outlet about 100 feet from the main breaker. Do you think I'd be ok with a 12 gauge wire at that distance or should I go to 10 gauge?

marly

Mark30 06-02-2011 05:40 PM

12 gauge sounds good!!

NJMarine 06-02-2011 07:29 PM

12 gauge is fine

Tigerloose 06-02-2011 10:39 PM

It depends on what you want to power from that 20 amp outlet. Skill saw, no, reading lamp, no problem.

marly 06-03-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerloose (Post 660115)
It depends on what you want to power from that 20 amp outlet. Skill saw, no, reading lamp, no problem.

After reading the manual for the device (dust collector) it recommends at least a dedicated 20 amp circuit. After looking at the Voltage Drop Calculator I get a 6.4% drop at 100 feet. They don't have any other specifications, but for them to recommend at dedicated circuit probably means it takes a lot of juice.

It also says that i can wire it for 230V and the voltage calculator says I'll get a 3.2% drop wiring it for 230V.

I guess I can get away with 12 gauge for a 230V, but in the end I'm probably better off running the 10 gauge.

Copper isn't as cheap as it used to be. :(

marly

sirsparksalot 06-03-2011 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by marly (Post 660165)
After looking at the Voltage Drop Calculator I get a 6.4% drop at 100 feet. They don't have any other specifications, but for them to recommend at dedicated circuit probably means it takes a lot of juice.

It also says that i can wire it for 230V and the voltage calculator says I'll get a 3.2% drop wiring it for 230V....
marly

Don't know what values you used, but you should input the total distance at 50% of the length of the circuit run. So, for 100 feet, use 50'.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/voltagedropcalc.html

Tigerloose 06-03-2011 08:22 AM

I must have been extra tired last night when I read your original question because I thought it said 200 feet. Anyway, at 100' and 6.4% drop you must be drawing around 10 amps and 10awg is the correct size to keep the voltage within the proper range. Realize that the actual voltage you have may be a bit lower than 120/240 depending on how far away you are from the poco transformer. Another point is that at start-up, motors draw considerably more than the nameplate rating.

HouseHelper 06-03-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sirsparksalot (Post 660169)
Don't know what values you used, but you should input the total distance at 50% of the length of the circuit run. So, for 100 feet, use 50'.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/voltagedropcalc.html

The circuit length is 100' out and 100' back so 1/2 is 100', not 50.

sirsparksalot 06-03-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HouseHelper (Post 660321)
The circuit length is 100' out and 100' back so 1/2 is 100', not 50.

I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense to me. She's taking a cable 100' away. If you're talking about the Neutral return back to the panel, then why would the calculator specify anything different?

Techy 06-03-2011 04:53 PM

your 'total circuit length' is your hot+neutral combined

most calculators ask for 'one-way' circuit length


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