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Old 08-27-2012, 10:56 PM   #16
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Exterior of the house??? I saw one once where the GFCI was the outside outlet, yet it turned off the bathroom.

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My in-laws outlet in the garage was powered by the GFIC in the upstairs bathroom at the back of the house....go figure....

I'm going to assume that more than one outlet is without power....I would start checking all outlets to see which one(s) don't have power....you are just going to have to start pulling things apart to find it....

I bet tomorrow you figure out which outlets are controlled by which breakers.....

One of the first thing I did when I moved into my house was to map out every single outlet and light.
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My in-laws outlet in the garage was powered by the GFIC in the upstairs bathroom at the back of the house....go figure....

I'm going to assume that more than one outlet is without power....I would start checking all outlets to see which one(s) don't have power....you are just going to have to start pulling things apart to find it....

I bet tomorrow you figure out which outlets are controlled by which breakers.....

One of the first thing I did when I moved into my house was to map out every single outlet and light.
receptacle and light...
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Outlet....receptacle....electrical distribution socket.....what ever it takes....

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Outlet....receptacle....electrical distribution socket.....what ever it takes....

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LOL... i was just teasing.
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These days with copper and labor through the roof and $15 GFCIs, I guess the math has changed.

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Quick update, I had an electrician come take a look at it and he determined that one of the neutral lines was broken (probably burned). At this point I wish it was a tripped GFCI. Anyway, now he wants to run a new line to the receptacle, but determined that he could tie the neutral to the ground temporarily to give me lights in my bathroom. Yay. Thanks for all the advice though!
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had a bad feeling the problem wasnt a tripped gfci

Make sure that temporary solution doesnt become permanent

My house was full of temporary splices and hack "plug extensions" when i moved in

EDit: I would NEVER do this in my house.

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Quick update, I had an electrician come take a look at it and he determined that one of the neutral lines was broken (probably burned). At this point I wish it was a tripped GFCI. Anyway, now he wants to run a new line to the receptacle, but determined that he could tie the neutral to the ground temporarily to give me lights in my bathroom. Yay. Thanks for all the advice though!
If that was his advice, I would fire him in a heartbeat.
No self respecting electrician would even suggest that.
If it is an open neutral, it can only be wherever there is a connection, so at the panel, or first receptacle or whatever else is on this circuit.
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Quick update, I had an electrician come take a look at it and he determined that one of the neutral lines was broken (probably burned). At this point I wish it was a tripped GFCI. Anyway, now he wants to run a new line to the receptacle, but determined that he could tie the neutral to the ground temporarily to give me lights in my bathroom. Yay. Thanks for all the advice though!

You are kidding, right? Any REAL electrician would not advise anyone to do this.
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Come on guys....hold the testosterone.....

It could be either one.....no different than a mechanic making a quick diagnoses on a car....he might be right....he might be wrong.....I look at it as 'shotgunning'...

With that said....

The 'likelyhood' of a neutral wire opening at a location other than a receptical...is remote....not impossible...but unlikely....

While I may not have the experience with residential electrical stuff like some of you guys...I deal with electrical in a commercial basis daily.......I have NEVER seen a neutral open up anywhere other than at a connection.

As I said before....the OP needs to map out all his breakers....then start at the first connection for the affected ckt and start working his way to the bad connection. This is just basic grunt work......
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Dawgs, read the part where the "electrician" wants to tie onto the ground wire to complete the circuit!
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Tying the neutral to a ground creates a shock hazard on all the metal parts of the system. Anyone that would suggest something so dangerous needs some serious re-training and/or a head slap. No knowledgeable electrician should have suggested this even temporary fix.

The problem will be at the last working or first non-working device. It is just an easter egg hunt to find it.
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Why the sudden influx of supposed electricians suggesting to tie the neutral and the ground together?
There can't be that many idiots out there can there?
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