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07302008, 11:00 PM  #1 
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I have a new topic is: What is the optimal spare factor for one designed transformer? Best Regards, Minh Tam Advertisement 
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Please, more details. A lot more. . .
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Sorry about late reply.
Detail of my question is: I have a building (has 65 residences). After I calculated the required power for my transformer (ofcourse having the simultaneous factor 0.4 for building has over 50 residencesaccording to IEC standard). Do you think I need a spare factor for my transformer?? 
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If the transformer is oil filled it is probably OK, if it is a drytype, I would add 30%.
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I'd not load anything above 80  90 % of its rated load
But consider what happens if all pepole turn on air conditioning etc at the same time (which may happen). Maybe the 0.4 factor is too small 
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Thanks for your proposes. Ks = 0.4 is the min factor when the building has over 50 resistances. But I often choose ks = 0.5 for safety and the trans has spare factor is 10 %. Do you think is it ok?

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From another post, I know now to ask "What is the (I^2) T curve for the transformer?"
You mix this in with the probability of all the loads being on at once. 
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Thank you so much Yoyilit.
I already have the load diagram (I*t) for one residence. I can understand your idea is choose capacity of Transformer according to the peak time in the load diagram. But with this method the capacity of transformer is so big. Because I think maybe the peak time of this residence diffence with another residences, because of that IEC had given a ks min for us. And the trouble of mine is how to choose a correct factor to make sure the Transformer not too big or too small with it's loads. Could you give me an advice? 
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The probability calculations for this circuit should take that into account. If the transformer instantly failed on a 1 microsecond overload the probability calculations would designed to prevent even the shortest overload [to some level of certainty]. This kind of safety factor would be way too conservative for a real world, massive, transformer with considerable Thermal Inertia and oil cooling. Ultimately the problem comes down to how many dollars are you willing to pay for how much certainty against a catastrophic failure? If there is such a failure, will it be just property damage or human life? You'll be getting into Confidence Levels and whatnot, unless these are already factored into the tables you have. Advertisement 

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