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Old 02-26-2013, 09:56 PM   #31
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stubbie the wire is twsted around other grounds and then grounded as a group to the panel.

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I think I would check the ground wire in your first box very carefully, it could be be broken. I was replacing some switches recently and some of the ends of the wires just broke as I was removing them from the switch. Still working but on the verge of becoming an open circuit.
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stubbie - I do not own a voltage meter, however I do have a 2 wire tester that checks for the prescense of voltage. i noticed when i go across from hot to common I have a strong light, but when I go from the ground to the hot it stll lights up but it is dimmer. Don't know if that helps at all.
Extremely poor connection somewhere or a nearly broken/damaged ground wire. If you cannot find it you have some options ... as i assume your worried about safety.
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Stubbie the ground wire is twisted around with other grounds, and then grounded as a group.
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Stubbie Yes I am concerned about safety. Is there any reason to separtate the ground in the panel that are twisted together, and make a separate ground junction in the box? What would be the best way to do that? it is not too close to the grounding bar.
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Stubbie the ground wire is twisted around with other grounds, and then grounded as a group.
Ok I've seen that many times. Is it a wirenut that is used to join all the grounds together and then a single wire to the screw. And is this screw a terminal strip involving several screws for the neutrals and grounds or is this only bare ground wires to a single screw in the panel metal.
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reader my panel is in my garage , and all of the ceiling and walls have drywall on them making for not easy wire tracing. Do you have a trick to use?
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reader my panel is in my garage , and all of the ceiling and walls have drywall on them making for not easy wire tracing. Do you have a trick to use?
You will need a continuity tester but this will only help you isolate the problem area.
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Yes Stubbie Yes Yes Yes and Yes however instead of the grounds being together with a wire nut, they are twwisted together and then run as a group to the terminal grounding strip that includes comons and grounds on the same strip. which I called a grunding bar.
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stubie I do have a continuity tester.
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Yes Stubbie Yes Yes Yes and Yes however instead of the grounds being together with a wire nut, they are twwisted together and then run as a group to the terminal grounding strip that includes comons and grounds on the same strip. which I called a grunding bar.
Do you have the resources to post a picture?
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On second thought my last advice was careless I don't think you should mess inside the panel like I suggested.....but my point was you need to be sure every ground is solidly connected. The way the equipment grounds are now is a code violation
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stubbie How exactly woudl I do that. These are older wires too. Woudl I just cut the ground wire out, wire nut it to a new bare wire, and run it to the groundimg bar?

Also what would we be accomplishing here? Would this be solving the problem?
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stubbie How exactly woudl I do that. These are older wires too. Woudl I just cut the ground wire out, wire nut it to a new bare wire, and run it to the groundimg bar?

Also what would we be accomplishing here? Would this be solving the problem?
See my edit on previous post but yes that was where I was going. I think you should let an electrician do that kind of work.
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Stubbie I did check continuity on that wire between the main panel and that wire and it tested good.

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