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hidden1 05-11-2013 05:36 PM

one messed up panel
 
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Attachment 70701Just got the place and there are several violation I I'll need to clear up,not to mention may have to move panel. Is is required when I cap off or disengag circuit that I move live circuits to top and cover plates below or is it OK to let them remain capped off?
Its seimans breakers .
It had baseboard heater circuits now no longer used.
Any info on it is appreciated.

eastcoastsparky 05-11-2013 05:39 PM

Why do you hav to move the panel? Where is it located? Add you location to your profile. And yes it does matter

MTN REMODEL LLC 05-11-2013 05:44 PM

Is your issue that you want to remove the breaker and the feeds to your formerly used baseboard heaters?

eastcoastsparky 05-11-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MTN REMODEL LLC
Is your issue that you want to remove the breaker and the feeds to your formerly used baseboard heaters?

I think he wants to know when you remove the circuits that are at the top of the panel if it is required to move lower circuits up to that position and to install blanks for the repositioned breakers

hidden1 05-11-2013 05:48 PM

It has central heat/air so i m sure they are no longer needed/used

eastcoastsparky 05-11-2013 05:51 PM

So what is your actual question?

hidden1 05-11-2013 05:58 PM

Will I have to move the operative circuits up and the disengaged to bottom,capped off?
And what gauge/amp wire are usually used in baseboard heating?.I will have to set up a seperate circuit for disposal and another for possible over stove microwave also.

rjniles 05-11-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hidden1 (Post 1177311)
Will I have to move the operative circuits up and the disengaged to bottom,capped off?
And what gauge/amp wire are usually used in baseboard heating?.I will have to set up a seperate circuit for disposal and another for possible over stove microwave also.

Try re-posting when you are sober:)

MTN REMODEL LLC 05-11-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hidden1 (Post 1177311)
Will I have to move the operative circuits up and the disengaged to bottom,capped off?
And what gauge/amp wire are usually used in baseboard heating?.I will have to set up a seperate circuit for disposal and another for possible over stove microwave also.

Caveat.. I'm not a sparky and not always (often) up to date on codes. I only answer so one of our sparkys can correct me

To the best of my knowledge: You do not have to rearrange or move lower breakers to the top, if that is your question. (In my jurisdiction, you do have to have all your main shutoff's ,less than 6... when you do not have a master... at the top). (Also, you do want to keep somewhat a balance between your two legs)

Disconnect your breaker feeds and neatly wire cap/label them and leave them in your panel for future use if you want.

You do not have to remove your breaker... but if you do... put the plastic blank in.

Your baseboards can be fed by various AWG wire, depending primarily on whether your running them 240 or 120... and some other factors. When you disconnect them, look at them and read the print on them.

I'm confused about your disposal microwave issue.

Good luck

hidden1 05-11-2013 06:38 PM

Currently the disposal is on same circuit as kitchen plug which is a violation.also I'm going to install a over the oven microwave(requires dedicated circuit 20 amp) .would like to use circuit that is no longer used for baseboard heater. So I can cap off the rest of unused baseboard circuits and leave in place then ,then put a cover plate over it?
Thanks for the info

RWolff 05-11-2013 08:01 PM

I don't think you have to move the in use breakers all to the top, though it might LOOK neater and be easier to see, but if you remove unused breakers you need to cover those holes with those blank covers so someone can't accidentally stick a finger in the hole- think of fumbling in the dark trying to find the breaker that tripped and you can see why you wouldn't want any way to accidentally get fingers in.

joed 05-12-2013 08:33 AM

When you disconnect the baseboards you can leave the breakers in place to fill the holes that would be present in the panel cover. No need to move the other breakers up. If you remove the cable then the holes in the side of the panel will need plugs installed.
If you need to add a new circuit then you can remove an unused breaker and put you new circuits in that slot.

brric 05-12-2013 11:29 AM

gtfooh

beenthere 05-12-2013 11:39 AM

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bobgodd 05-12-2013 02:17 PM

If he removes the breaker for the heaters, but cannot remove the wire, what is the proper way to terminate the wire?


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