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Old 12-10-2008, 06:54 PM   #1
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I've been using a type of old work box that comes with screws inside that you can slip in the hole and screw into the stud from the inside of the box. They work great for me.

So, I get the idea that I can do the same thing just by putting some drywall screws through the side of a regular old or new work box. Friend of mine says that wouldn't be code because you would have some ungrounded metal, (the screw heads), in the box. Makes sense to me except the code approved box with it's own screws also leaves the screw heads exposed. What gives?

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The screws aren't really an issue. The screws through the old work boxes might be one. You are modifying the device, voids the ul rating. So its technically a violation.

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... the code approved box with it's own screws also leaves the screw heads exposed. What gives?
most likely, the approved box has a slight recess to prevent them from making contact with any stray bare conductors that might be present in the box.

Using your own screws through the side of a standard "blue" box leaves some portion of the screw head vulnerable to catching a wire ....
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It's done daily. It's a non issue unless you have an anal retentive inspector. One inspector accepted a dab of caulk over them.

Code says the screws must be 1/4 from the back so you can do it and stay compliant.




I usually put the screws about an inch or so in. If bare conductors touch the screws on the side of your box, you are doing something wrong.
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It's done daily. It's a non issue unless you have an anal retentive inspector. One inspector accepted a dab of caulk over them.

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Given what others have said about this to you on other forums I am surprised you still continue to do this.
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Given that statement I am suprised you manage to operate a computer.

Don't be stupid. If you are going to judge me, you better be qualified.
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Given that statement I am suprised you manage to operate a computer.

Don't be stupid. If you are going to judge me, you better be qualified.
I have done this in a pinch, but it isn't something that I try to do on a regular basis. Nothing hugely wrong with it, just not the best solution if others are available.
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