Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-28-2011, 04:03 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3
Share |
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


I'm working on replacing an old (1960's) ceiling light with a fan and I having a wiring question.

The box has two black wires wrapped together, two white wires wrapped together and a yellow wire alone. After using a "live wire" to determine which was hot, they all beeped. Some more furiously than others, but all nevertheless.

So which is which?
Attached Images
 

Budl09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2011, 04:25 PM   #2
Busy DIYer
 
picflight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: S. California
Posts: 234
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


Black should be hot, yellow is probably part of a 3-way switch.

picflight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2011, 04:31 PM   #3
Member
 
analogmusicman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 591
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


I guess there was a fixture in there before. so how was it wired?
analogmusicman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2011, 04:31 PM   #4
Licensed electrician
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,400
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


You have a couple of issues; the wires should be in a cable or conduit, not individual conductors run into the box. Two the gap around the box needs to be repaired so it is no greater than 1/8". Three the box does not look to be rated for fan support and should be replaced.
__________________
Answers based on the National Electrical Code. Local amendments may apply. Check with your local building officials.
Jim Port is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2011, 04:43 PM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


The old light had the two black wires taped together and attached to nothing. The gold wire and the white wire were attached to the light. I just can't remember in what order.

The wires running into the box are in conduit but the conduit couldn't reach the new box. The box is rated for a fan as it came with one of those extension rod kits. The hole around the box is going to be filled as soon as I know I don't have to make any more changes. That way I won't have to cut it out again.
Budl09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2011, 05:06 PM   #6
Member
 
analogmusicman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 591
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


any color wire except white and green can be a hot wire so I guess your yellow wire is hot and those white wires are neutral. so the whites would go to your fan's white and your yellow to the fan's black. the fan's ground (maybe green?) would go right to that box as long as it's a grounded box.
personally,I use a cheap "radio shack" vom (meter) to check voltage on wires to be sure.
analogmusicman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2011, 07:03 PM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


Thanks!
Budl09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2011, 08:06 PM   #8
Electrician
 
SD515's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Near Jackson Michigan Area
Posts: 1,450
Default

Old ceiling light wiring help!!


First step is to get the conduit to the box. As Jim mentioned, you can’t have individual wires run to the box like that. If you don’t have a green or bare wire in the conduit going to the box, then the conduit would be the ground. Without the conduit attached to the box, it won’t be grounded.

__________________
Kyle

Just because you can, doesn't always mean you should
SD515 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ceiling fan light kit duhtroll Electrical 10 06-21-2011 02:29 PM
how to turn ceiling light into a fan w/ ceiling light MLMIB Electrical 4 06-06-2011 08:04 AM
Ceiling Fan with Light kit - Light not working aadams Electrical 12 11-03-2010 06:32 PM
Help wiring ceiling light wylde8 Electrical 1 09-24-2009 06:29 AM
wiring ceiling fan to light switch cshsr Electrical 10 07-20-2009 04:08 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.