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Old 01-22-2012, 08:44 AM   #1
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Old apts 4 story electric system need upgrade


We have old apt that needs electrical upgrading plans before we start
1call power co. to see what cost to in crease sevice
2 figure routing demo for feeds to ea apt
3locate where to mount sub panel in ea apt
4 figure out routing for new cable and demo to walls
5check w city what other upgrades etc. needed detectors etc.
In general what do you think of plan in addition to your tips

notes:any tips on demo methods,routing,feeders coming up from 1 st. floor
we think it is lath walls,we think the demo will be very important
also someone told us to drill holes though joist nearest wall
as posable.the building is old needs it upgrade

Any other tips to make these project liveable?
Thanks zoe1974
We going to do grunt work work with a electrical


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Old 01-22-2012, 08:52 AM   #2
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I most cases the power company will up grade the service for free, this would be the time to have them run the lines under ground instead of over head for a better look for the wiring.
I see no way someone can do all this while people are living in the apartments.
There's going to have to be complete power outages during most of this work.
Other then if outlets are going to be added, and your picking the locations the electrition should be telling you where things need to go not us that have never seen the place and do not know your local codes.


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Old 01-22-2012, 09:14 AM   #3
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Get some quotes from electricians and ask what you can do to lower the price. Don't be surprised if the answer is "not much".

This is not even close to a DIY project.
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Hey joe I thought this was a diy forum who says we have
A electrician ,we may or may not .Were looking to save money
by doing most of the work or maybe all of it,that I think is why
This forum is here to get ideas tips etc.If you dont feel like
Commenting then DONT someone else may .This a diy site right
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We looked at some of the posts here some are just as much complex
Or more than ours if you guys stuck up about your opions
Why call it do it yourselfer site.if I need to know how to turn a wrench or hang a
Picture well come back here where the punks hang out.
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If a guy wants to DIY brain surgery, I say knock yourself out.
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We looked at some of the posts here some are just as much complex
Or more than ours if you guys stuck up about your opions
Why call it do it yourselfer site.if I need to know how to turn a wrench or hang a
Picture well come back here where the punks hang out.
Drop the attitude skippy. SO SORRY you didn't like the TWO replies you got. Your just another typical person who goes on the offensive when you don't like the answers you get.

If this was your own single family home I wouldn't care if you burned it down, but you have three other families to worry about here.
Sorry, my opinion is that rewiring a 4-plex by someone who has to come to a DIY board and ask how to run the wires is a bad idea. If that makes me stuck up I'm OK with that.
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If u notice we ask about demo walls drill a couple holes
we not asking tech questions here like I said speedy boy
We come back ask you how to hang pictures
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A little differant then just adding a ceiling fan or one outlet. A complete rewiring requires permits, which in most cases a home owner can not even get for eletrical or plumbing work.
Your working on an apartment not a single famly home so other peoples lives are at stake not just your own.
Lots of us on here work on houses for a living and most know what you can and can not do in the interest of safety. Some of the replys your getting are from licenced electitions suggesting it's not a DIY job.
Why do you think there suggesting it's not? There not going to make a dime by doing so. They do this every day and know for a fact no reguler home owner or apartment owner in your case, has ever even seen a code book, know what gauge wires to use, where the GFI's go, if you need Arc fault breakers, how to pull a meter base ect. ect.
Even if you did go out and buy a code book you would not even know what most of it meant, an electrition will.
Not sure what post your talking about I've never once see any replys suggesting anyone do there own complete rewiring on a building like yours.
Figure out how to save money some other way, this is not the one to do it on.
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If u notice we ask about demo walls drill a couple holes
we not asking tech questions here like I said speedy boy
We come back ask you how to hang pictures
Then my original reply was accurate:
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Get some quotes from electricians and ask what you can do to lower the price. Don't be surprised if the answer is "not much".
Drilling holes is only a tiny fraction of the work to be done. If you think you are going to save anything don't be upset by the outcome.
Demo is another story. Gut all the walls and ceilings and you will be in a MUCH better position as far as ALL the mechanical rough-ins go.


Oh, and I only hang pictures in my own home. And I am not an expert at that so I would never advise others on it.
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if you supplied a schematic and location of the 4-plex, it would help out the electricians greatly. you could also supply the quote details of what needs to be done.

As far as the grunt work goes, ask the electricians quoting what you can do yourself to assist them and lower the bill. They might be happy having you demo and repair the walls instead of having their grunts do it.

Since they will be responsible for the work, they would want to dictate how its done.
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Dude listen to Joe and Pete don't get offended, they're just stating your in over your head, unless your a pro it's not possible. And I feel the same way, just drop it
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Not getting the ansewers here you like try any one of the hundreds of other DIY sites and see if if you can get anyone that knows what there doing to agree with you on this one.
There's lot of them that have nothing but eletrical questions.
I build house, additions, and have remodeled hunderds of homes and still hire an electrition to do the major wiring, cost more money but never had a house burn down or not pass inspection yet.
Got to know your limitataions.
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Well sorry to say if some one thinks this isnt a diy
question demo walls ,from why I see you got alot of more
Tech. questions on this site.if it isnt within in scope of this site
Have the moderator make the call,we just thought we might get
Some tips here there

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