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luvxyz 10-08-2008 12:16 PM

Not able to secure vanity light to back plate with any screws
 
can't secure the new light so i put the old light back. thx for all of you.

Marvin Gardens 10-08-2008 01:35 PM

Do you have an electrical box in there?

luvxyz 10-08-2008 01:41 PM

There is a box but is a different one people usually have
 
Yes, there is a box, but there is only two holes and there was nothing behind it. No wood, no dry wall. It's all empty; that's the reason why I can't screw anything into it. There are two holes in the middle, but there are metal beind it blocking the way, so I can't scew anything there either. I added a picture of the box in the album. Please take a look it.

Marvin Gardens 10-08-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by luvxyz (Post 169691)
Yes, there is a box, but there is only two holes and there was nothing behind it. No wood, no dry wall. It's all empty; that's the reason why I can't screw anything into it. There are two holes in the middle, but there are metal beind it blocking the way, so I can't scew anything there either. I added a picture of the box in the album. Please take a look it.

Well I am not sure what is going on here as it is not all that clear.

If the light is small and doesn't weigh much you can use a retrograde box that will hold weight if installed correctly. These boxes have "wings" on them that will tighten up against the wall board and act as anchors.

jbfan 10-08-2008 02:28 PM

You will have to cut the screws to make them shorter. It happens all the time.

luvxyz 10-08-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin Gardens (Post 169712)
Well I am not sure what is going on here as it is not all that clear.

If the light is small and doesn't weigh much you can use a retrograde box that will hold weight if installed correctly. These boxes have "wings" on them that will tighten up against the wall board and act as anchors.

I think I know what you are refering to. Unfortunatly I have a havy light.

Termite 10-08-2008 05:06 PM

The box in the picture is a pancake box. It is a very common box, and is made of metal. What you need is a mounting strap (or "hickey") to accommodate the light fixture screws. The hickey screws to the box.

You should be using machine-thread screws...You are, right?

Termite 10-08-2008 05:09 PM

If the pancake box isn't secured to anything, it should be easy to remove and replace with a box that will physically mount to the sheetrock with the aforementioned little plastic wings. There are other configurations as well.

220/221 10-08-2008 06:42 PM

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If the pancake box isn't secured to anything, it should be easy to remove and replace with a box that will physically mount to the sheetrock with the aforementioned little plastic wings.

It's a pan box for a reason. There will be a stud behind it.


Like jbfan said, you just need the right length screws (8/32's) that won't hit the back of the box.


If that is a FAN pan box, the screws will be 10/32's and will slip thru the tabs and screw into the back of the box.

Termite 10-08-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 169813)
It's a pan box for a reason. There will be a stud behind it.

I'd certainly hope so too, but the OP indicated that there wasn't anything behind it.

220/221 10-08-2008 08:18 PM

He was confused :jester::jester::jester:


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