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Old 01-06-2012, 08:45 AM   #1
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I hung the box 1/8" short of drywall face...

The mistake seems so obvious now, i'm feeling quite foolish.

I tried an extension but that pushes the face plate too far from the drywall. Putting the plate on as is and there is a big gap between the plate and receptacle. Looks poor...wait it is poor!

Well, is there a simple solution?

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Dont worry most times its not exact. Try a flexible plate and loosen the screws between the outlet and box

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It looks like a good install....what am I missing? Could the screws holding the receptacle in be keeping the plate from going flush? I'm used to seeing flathead screws there.
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Use some DAP foam in the can to fill the gap and be done.
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Slightly loosen the two screws that hold the outlet in the box, and when you install the coverplate it will draw the outlet towards the room (and the coverplate) where it needs to be. Everything will look fine and be fine and the world will be wonderful again.
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Actually it looks like a pretty good install. You’re allowed up to a ¼ inch set-back in non-combustible material, and up to 1/8 gap around the box. If you wanted to fill the gap, you can use drywall mud or some caulk.

Looks like the retaining screws are too tight and they bent the plaster ears, causing the recept to sit back some and the plate not to sit right. Loosen the screws or you may have to remove the recpt, and bend the entire mounting tab(s) back to vertical and re-install. Snug it up until the plaster ears-tab is snug on the drywall, then the plate should fit better.
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Looks fine to me, the tabs on the sides of the box are 3/8 from the face of the rock, the rock is 1/2, if the box was flush in a perfect world it would work but if the box twisted as most do it would stick out and the plate would not sit flush to the wall, so it's far better to have it sit back a tiny bit like yours.
I always buy my plates by the big box and buy midrange, unbreakable ones.
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I had this problem before too. I think the HD plugs have really cheesy plaster ears. I couldn't even plug something into it without having them bend.

I ended up having to make some spacers so that it would tighten against the box.
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Yep…sometimes a spacer is going to be required. Residential receptacles are built to the minimum standards, doesn’t matter where you buy them. They all have plaster ears that can bend easily.
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Yep…sometimes a spacer is going to be required. Residential receptacles are built to the minimum standards, doesn’t matter where you buy them. They all have plaster ears that can bend easily.
Speaking of the "ears"....are you allowed to just break them off and use them as spacers? They are sorta "scored" as if they can be broken off cleanly.

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they sell these plastic spacers. this pic shows a bunch of them,just break them apart. use behind mounting screw and the outlet doesnt move when plugging things in
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Just use some wire scraps, wrap them around the shank of a phillips screwdriver a few times to form a coil, clip it off, and use that between the receptacle and the box. It gives you a slight spring action that helps tighten everything up.
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Speaking of the "ears"....are you allowed to just break them off and use them as spacers? They are sorta "scored" as if they can be broken off cleanly.

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I have before, but they’re more intended to be broken off if using an old-work box or a raised box cover. I try not to take them from the device actually being mounted, unless I have to, so the plaster ears are still intact to overhang the drywall. I keep a few in my pouch that I get from switches/recpts that are junk. The plastic spacers Mazey posted work well too, but I don’t always have some available.
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Yep…sometimes a spacer is going to be required. Residential receptacles are built to the minimum standards, doesn’t matter where you buy them. They all have plaster ears that can bend easily.
I started to just pick up a box of Pass/Seymour-Legrand commercial outlets from our Menard's for our Kitchen remodel, vs the resi's than that I got from Lowe's when I first started rewiring this house. Same for the switches. Stands up a lot better.
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The simple solution is to use the spacers that are built on the recept. The Ears are made just for that. Use a pair of pliers and break off the Ears and place them behind the screws. Use as many as needed to get the recetp to sit flush. do not leave the recept loose and use the cover to pull it out. I have seen to many of these over the years and all it does is cause the cover plate to crack or the recept to move around in the box enough to mess up the wall finish around the plate when they get used

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