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Old 01-30-2014, 12:58 PM   #16
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There is a picture of the Square-D CAFCI on the Structure Tech Home Inspections Face Book Page, along with the new Square-D panel.

The test button is Purple on the Square-D CAFCI breaker.

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Old 01-30-2014, 01:23 PM   #17
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Double-pole? Square D has single-poles, I know that (my Home Depot has a large supply), but they don't have double-poles yet.
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Go to an Electrical Warehouse, not Home Depot for what you need.
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Old 01-30-2014, 04:51 PM   #19
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I believe I found the post you were talking about (January 18th?), but they're "QO Plug-on Neutral CAFI" breakers and not shared-neutral/double-pole breakers -- completely different things I think?
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More info on them. http://www.schneider-electric.com/pr...cuit-breakers/
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What a waste of money really....
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What a waste of money really....
Actually not. It is saving money. You will start seeing MWBC more common with these newer panels. Cuts down on costs & maintenance.

Give me five years, and I am switching over to the new QO Panel, since I have maxed out my current QO panel that I had installed back in 2003, when we bought this place.

I cannot wait for the panels & corresponding CAFCI's to become available, soon enough.
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Actually not. It is saving money. You will start seeing MWBC more common with these newer panels. Cuts down on costs & maintenance. Give me five years, and I am switching over to the new QO Panel, since I have maxed out my current QO panel that I had installed back in 2003, when we bought this place. I cannot wait for the panels & corresponding CAFCI's to become available, soon enough.
I should have clarified, I was referring to the OPs situation.
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I should have clarified, I was referring to the OPs situation.
Not even in the OP situation. Especially if a Sub-Panel is being suggested. My guess is that their existing panel is filled to capacity, is thy the AHJ suggested putting in a sub.
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The panel has nothing to do with the functionality of 2 pole AFCI breakers.
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Not even in the OP situation. Especially if a Sub-Panel is being suggested. My guess is that their existing panel is filled to capacity, is thy the AHJ suggested putting in a sub.
The OP's panel is not maxed out. He can't find any 2 pole AFCI's from SQ D.


The sub is the simplest way to go.
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I am sure the inspector suggested the sub panel as it is about the only option available to the OP since a two pole Square D is not available.
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This situation is why many people (and some electricians) would not get a permit for this type job. It is beyond reason to require an upgrade to AFCI given the particulars of this job.
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This situation is why many people (and some electricians) would not get a permit for this type job. It is beyond reason to require an upgrade to AFCI given the particulars of this job.
Think this is bad, wait til a receptacle needs to be replaced that needs AFCI protection.
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That requirement should have taken effect as of 1/1/14.

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