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Old 02-11-2009, 06:53 PM   #16
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Remind me not to sell my 73 Pinto to this buyer. Probably wants an air bag installed.

What do they expect from a 60 year old house?

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Remind me not to sell my 73 Pinto to this buyer. Probably wants an air bag installed.

What do they expect from a 60 year old house?
The point is not the buyer, but that the OP agreed to fix it without first knowing the cost!

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Old 02-11-2009, 07:26 PM   #18
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I can see the need for grounded receptacles in the bedroom. All window AC units have a grounded plug; The one I bought from Sears a few years ago has an LCDI on the plug. But that's an arc-fault protection device, not a ground fault protection device.

If this situation were mine, I would pull new Romex. Copper is real cheap right now!

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Old 02-11-2009, 08:35 PM   #19
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I was hoping we made that clear but I think money got in the way of common sense.....
Agreed! Seems abnormal to insist that the 60 year old house be brought up to current code. I don't see that it should be all that important, but she obviously won't listen to reason.
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Is the rest of the huse grounded?
Was a home inspector involved that discovered the ungrounded receptacles.
As others have said, you agreed to fix before the sale can go through, so you either don't seel, or fix the grounds.
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The sticking point is not so much the need to ground but rather what you agreed to do.

Someone correct me if this is acceptable under code.

Run a bare ground wire to each of the receptacles, bonding as needed except that the wire runs on the surface such as down to and stapled to the baseboards and up around door jambs, otherwise generally following the route of the in-wall cables down to the panel.

If so you will have contractually fulfilled your agreement to ground the receptacles without the expense of cutting into and refinishing the walls. The buyer may or may not be able to bow out but could not withhold purchase money to complete the job and could not demand that you do it "right".

Actually you would explain this to the buyer before doing it so the buyer could choose to not have the baseboards marred by manually changing the purchase & sales agreement to not mention grounding.

OT: A real estate teacher told me the story of someone who contracted to sell his house and who was compelled to put in a new furnace or have the money to do so taken from the sales proceeds. No right to rescind simply because the dollar amount was much more than expected. Moral: It's a good idea to have your own attorney who knows real estate before you sign the purchase and sales agreement.
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Someone correct me if this is acceptable under code.

Stubbie mentioned the single ground earlier in this thread. It is legal to do.
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If you go the baseboard method you will need nailplates to protect the ground wire at each stud. It is fine to do as you say however but if there is a basement or crawl space or attic it generally is a lot easier to just come from below or above and fish to the recepatcles. The hardest part is (not that it is that hard) is catching the ground wire and bringing it into the box without removing the wall finish or the box. Sometimes it is just easier to cut the box out and replace with an old work one.
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Good news!! She decided to drop it and we will not have to repair anything in the bedroom. When it was explained to her, her agent told he to forget about it. Lesson learned: Check things before you agree to fix.

Thanks for everyones input.
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Glad to hear it worked out and you guys can move forward.
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You guys were great. I basically told her to deal with it, we offered to install 2 prongs and she said no, so I refused to go the other route and she backed down. I think someone was advising her (rightly or wrongly), or she came to her senses. She also thought it may have been more serious than what it was. Anyway, we are done and moving to an newer house. No doubt I will be on here asking more questions.

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Two days,$500 USD? I would of went for that!
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In our city - you still have to correct the violation to pass the inspection. (required when selling).

This is assuming I read correctly you have ungrounded 3 prong plugs, and also assuming the inspector checks for this !

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