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12-29-2008, 03:38 PM
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the Musigician
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no cover plate outlets, code?
is there code yet on these? ok to install? i like the look.
http://bocci.ca/?#/22-standard/
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12-29-2008, 04:05 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
Interesting.
took me a moment to figure out the concept. suppose to mud the whole panel, which is how you avoid seeing the edge of the drywall.
based on the installation video, this area of the wall would stick out a bit... but thats how it works with cover plates today..
might be tough to buy them. be interesting to know if anyone had experience with the product.
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12-30-2008, 04:35 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
Those are crazy!!! The other things on that site are great
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12-30-2008, 05:29 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
If you cover over the box with compound, in effect you would be making the electrical box inaccessible, they do look cool though
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12-30-2008, 07:18 PM
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the Musigician
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no cover plate outlets, code?
they come out with wiring accessible, no? i don't think they could make them if they wouldn't pass code.
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12-30-2008, 07:45 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
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Originally Posted by DangerMouse
i don't think they could make them if they wouldn't pass code.
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Really? Seriously?
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12-30-2008, 11:36 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
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Originally Posted by DUDE!
If you cover over the box with compound, in effect you would be making the electrical box inaccessible, they do look cool though
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The box itself does not have to be accessible, the wiring inside it does.
IRC E3805.10: ...outlet boxes shall be installed so that the wiring therein can be accessed without removing any part of the building...
As much as I don't like the idea, I don't see any reason they could be prohibited unless there was any wiring or connection in the box that could not be accessed through the hole. That's a pretty subjective call.
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12-30-2008, 11:38 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
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Originally Posted by Leah Frances
Really? Seriously?
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You'd be suprised at the amount of non-rated fixtures that get installed in homes. I've found several light fixtures in the last few years that didn't have listings and didn't comply with code for various reasons. Most were from China and were junk.
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12-31-2008, 12:21 AM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
it appears to come with a tool, you can pull out the socket and all the wires and the connection just like any outlet.
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01-02-2009, 08:33 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
Those are sweet. Thanks for posting DM.
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01-02-2009, 08:41 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
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01-02-2009, 09:34 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
Oh, these look good, but I would just stick with normal receptacles.
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01-03-2009, 06:52 AM
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the Musigician
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no cover plate outlets, code?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7echo
Those are sweet. Thanks for posting DM.
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np, i thought so too!
would it be better to cut a square in the drywall and sink it in, then mud flat, or not? i don't do much drywall normally, but i do know i don't like mounds and feathering you can easily see. i know peeling the paper will be a big nono here, but i just don't like the idea of mudding it the other way.
anyone see a price for these anywhere? UL approval anywhere?
on dialup, i can barely see the main page on the site.
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01-03-2009, 12:14 PM
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no cover plate outlets, code?
Although very cool looking, I doubt practical in normal applications.
Maybe cool for galleries and such that have to have outlets visible - something unusual and cool to look at.
Neat concept, but probably going to also cost an arm and a leg for the outlets..
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01-03-2009, 12:47 PM
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K&B Remodeler/Tile Guy
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no cover plate outlets, code?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerMouse
anyone see a price for these anywhere? UL approval anywhere?
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Yes, their website says "...may now be mounted flush with drywall or millwork with a new CSA and UL approved utility system..."
A little investigation and I found a site that shows a guy installing them (at least before drywalling) and states the cost of each outlet is $16. Here's the kicker, the shiny removal tool......$40 extra
http://www.unplggd.com/unplggd/diy-p...he-wild-071169
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