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toddmanqa 10-31-2008 03:40 PM

NM to Armored Cable Transition?
 
I am in the process of renovating a room in Albany, NY, and have exposed the studs in order to add insulation and re-do the old wiring.

I plan on using NM (Romex) wire, and plan on running the NM down a plumbing chase to the basement, and then run to the electrical panel.

Does the NM have to be in armored cable or conduit in the basement/plumbing chase, or can I staple it to the bottom of the joists in the basement? (I'll be fireblocking the chase as soon as I'm done.)

If I do use Armored Cable or conduit in the basement, what is the correct way to transition from NM?

Note: I didn't want to use armored cable for the room wiring because I wanted to use plastic receptacle boxes.

Thanks for any advice!

amakarevic 10-31-2008 03:43 PM

not to different except that armored cable requires special clamp connectors going into a receptacle. you may find out that your legacy armored cable does not have a ground wire, in that case you most likely want to piggytail your incoming NM ground around a brace on the receptacle or something like that - i am not sure but would be curious to confirm from a more credible source.

Bubbagump 10-31-2008 03:46 PM

Generally you are required to staple wiring to the SIDE of joists. (at least around here you do.)

As for a hand off between NM and BX (assuming you really meanAC), a metal junction box with BX in one side and NM out the other will work fine. be sure to ground the NM to the box.

rgsgww 10-31-2008 03:57 PM

I already helped someone with the same thing, I already have a post on this with pictures check it out

http://www.diychatroom.com/f18/armored-cable-30648/#15

Remember you NEED bushings, and the armored cable NEEDS to have a bonding strip in it!

amakarevic 10-31-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubbagump (Post 179236)
be sure to ground the NM to the box.

do they have special receptacle boxes with little hooks inside them to piggytail the NM ground to instead of piggytailing it to a receptacle brace, which interferes with screwing the cover on ?

Bubbagump 10-31-2008 04:12 PM

Grounding clips, yo. Or there are threaded 10-32 holes in the back of the box to ground to.

amakarevic 10-31-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubbagump (Post 179250)
Grounding clips, yo. Or there are threaded 10-32 holes in the back of the box to ground to.

is this something than needs to be purchased separate from a receptacle and inserted into a hole you are talking about ?

Bubbagump 10-31-2008 04:20 PM

You are rewiring a building? Eeesh... Really, get your work checked out.

That said... many boxes come with a screw already in the back of the box to connect the ground to. If there is no hole, then a grounding clip must be used. This is a green clip that connects a ground wire to the box. They are like 15 cents each.

See here:

http://www.itw-fastex.com/catalog/in...ce296908e9109e

amakarevic 10-31-2008 04:29 PM

exactly what i thought. thanks.


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