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Old 11-05-2011, 07:38 PM   #1
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OK electricians! Tme to give up one of your secrets!!

I have 3 twelve gauge wires in a junction box and will wire nut them (basically a ground coming off a receptacle and going to another receptacle). When I look at another one that an electrician did, he somehow wraps those three wires nice and tight around each other and then wire nuts them...how the heck do you do that wrap? I've tried pliers to no avail! Certainy trying to twist them by hand doesn't get me very far.

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This is what separates the pros from the rest!~

You need a bigger pair of pliers (we use "linesmans" pliers for such tasks)


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Ah yes, we used to call these our "Kleins" - even though all our tools were Kleins, for some reason these pliers were "your Kleins" - as in "I didn't bring my hammer, hand me your Kleins". We used to beat those poor things, but they never quit.

I was trying with the needle-nose. Close but no cigar.
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This is what separates the pros from the rest!~

You need a bigger pair of pliers (we use "linesmans" pliers for such tasks)

Plus the 1000's of joints electricians have practiced on.

No real secret, line up the ends of wire and twist slowly, its not a race take your time. Then do 1000's of joints and you will have joints that look like a pros.
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Strip the wire long and you'll have more to work with.
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Some electricians don't pre-twist the wires at all. It is not a requirement to twist the wires before installing the wire nut. Why do you think someone invented the wire nut? To eliminate twisting and soldering.
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Some electricians don't pre-twist the wires at all. It is not a requirement to twist the wires before installing the wire nut. Why do you think someone invented the wire nut? To eliminate twisting and soldering.
Exactly....that nice twist your seeing is what happens when you twist the wirenut enough. Hold the wires about 2" from the nut and twist with the tool.
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....I was trying with the needle-nose. Close but no cigar.
I can do it with needle-nose. But then again, I do this sort of thing all day, most every day ...
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Exactly....that nice twist your seeing is what happens when you twist the wirenut enough. Hold the wires about 2" from the nut and twist with the tool.
Nah, I am a pretwister. Too old to change.
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I can do it with needle-nose. But then again, I do this sort of thing all day, most every day ...
Me too...except I don't use pliers...just my hands.
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Me too...except I don't use pliers...just my hands.
You have to see me twist #10 solid together with my hands.
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You have to see me twist #10 solid together with my hands.
Oh yea? You should see me twist 00 with my bare hands........
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Oh yea? You should see me twist 00 with my bare hands........

What size marrette do you put on there when your done??????
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What size marrette do you put on there when your done??????
Big ones.

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