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humberguy 03-23-2010 11:57 PM

New telephone line
 
I want to run a new telephone line in my basement. ive checked my other telephone lines and ive seen that their's a blue and white wire with the power coming in. Can i just buy the regular telephone line wire with the red/green/black/yellow wire? Or do i also have to run that blue and white wire?

nap 03-24-2010 12:01 AM

electrons don't care what color the wire is




is this for just a phone or phone and DSL?

humberguy 03-24-2010 12:03 AM

just a telephone line, not for internet.

kbsparky 03-24-2010 12:12 AM

The blue pair of wires are commonly the first pair in the sequence of twisted pair cables. If you want to install a short run of straight (not twisted pairs) wire, it should provide satisfactory phone (voice) use.

Red connects to the blue wire.
Green connects to the white wire.

bjlffire 03-24-2010 12:14 AM

Please be sure and buy cat3 or 5 station wire.
So many folks think the flat wire used for cords from phone to jack are suitable, it is not.

Like above, coler does not matter, but it does make it simple.
Also make sure you use the same colors at both ends.
May sound funny but I have seen it.

Do not get the punch down type jacks, screw terminals work best.

humberguy 03-24-2010 12:18 AM

cat3/station 5 wire. Is that blue/white only? Or is it the green/red/black/yellow wire?

kbsparky 03-24-2010 05:52 AM

The Blue/White pair of wires are twisted pairs which is what is commonly used in CAT-3 and CAT-5 cables.

The Green/red/black/yellow wires are not twisted pairs and is the old-type of phone wiring. It can be subject to cross-talk, and other interference since the conductors are straight.

humberguy 03-24-2010 09:40 AM

thanks guys for your help, i got it now

Gary in WA 03-24-2010 09:51 PM

Stay 6" away from AC cable or you'll get static.

Be safe, Gary

Tonglebeak 03-24-2010 09:55 PM

I'd like to chime in: The colors in cat-3 are blue/blue-white/orange/orange-white

The blue-white and orange-whites look alike at first glance, so pay attention to them. Blue/blue-white is equivalent to red/green.

humberguy 03-26-2010 12:09 PM

thanks for the help, i didnt think about static occuring from the electrical lines being so close to the telephone lines.

One more thing. I have a bunch of electrical lines around the area where i want to run the telephone line. Is their some kind of like insulation i could put between the telephone line and the electrical line to avoid the static.

andrew79 03-26-2010 12:52 PM

buy a shielded cable instead of regular. I'm no phone expert but if it works anything like Fire Alarm equipment does then if you install a twisted shielded cable and connect the shield to a source or ground then it should catch all those stray magnetic waves and send them to ground before they induce any sort of static into the phone line.

nap 03-26-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew79 (Post 419962)
buy a shielded cable instead of regular. I'm no phone expert but if it works anything like Fire Alarm equipment does then if you install a twisted shielded cable and connect the shield to a source or ground then it should catch all those stray magnetic waves and send them to ground before they induce any sort of static into the phone line.

shielded cable is obviously an option but it is way overkill for a phone line. Only recently have I been seeing data cabling being spec'd with shielded cable and that is generally in some special situations.

andrew79 03-26-2010 01:01 PM

would a plain old twisted cable be suficienct then? i know that will do alot to negate the noise...i only spent 8 months working in the comm sector so my knowledge on this stuff is a little limited.

nap 03-26-2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew79 (Post 419969)
would a plain old twisted cable be suficienct then? i know that will do alot to negate the noise...i only spent 8 months working in the comm sector so my knowledge on this stuff is a little limited.

Many companies I know will use cat3 cable for telephone lines and cat5e or better for data lines. Most larger jobs spec it as to what the owners requirements demand and since costs come in to play, if they only spec cat3 for phone lines, that is generally what they get.

On small jobs where the price difference is not so noticeable and since phone lines are are commonly used for DSL internet services now, if it isn't spec'd, I tend to lean towards cat5e simply to avoid any problems, if it is my choice.


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