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Old 08-02-2012, 03:46 AM   #1
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Needed Decora rocker switch CFL rated?


I'm looking for a Illuminated Decora rocker switch 2 wire that is CFL rated. Is there any available? At the present CFL's will lightly flicker with the switch off (67 volt) .

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If the rocker switch is iluminated when in the off position.
That would explain why the cfl's flicker.
Cause they arn't really off!
The neon lamps are wired across the switch.
So in the off position, a small current flows thru the neon,
Usually with a incandesant lamp, it is not enough to light it up,
But with cfl's it will cause flickering.

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Thanks, What are my options to fix this?
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Agreed with Post #2. Here is a schematic of an illuminated switch. The Neon
has a fairly high impedance so when a incandescent bulb (lower impedance)
is connected then most of the voltage is across the Neon.
However a much higher impedance CFL will have have a correspondingly lower voltage causing flicker if it comes on at all.
The negative side of using illuminated switches with CFL's is that the trickle current when the switch is off may lead to shorter bulb life.

Their is no easy solution as Pilot switches are I think ugly and they require a
neutral which probably has to be added.
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The guys above covered all the points.....

What is the application? Bathroom? If so, is there a fan in there on a different ckt?

Otherwise, you will have to pretty much plan on having to install a neut in the box....
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Its a Kitchen light with a receptacle in the same box. Could I use the receptacle's neutral? What switch would I need a pilot switch?

I might just go back to the incandescent light bulb or remove the lighted switch.

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If you can find a DPDT illuminated rocker switch that is mains rated,
you can wire one side to the internal lamp,
But you would need a neutral.
Not easy, but possible.
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Edit
was looking for style but I got it now as Decora in Post #1
But what about Color?
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You cannot use the neutral from the receptacle. All the conductors of the circuit need to be in the same raceway or sheath. Ligthing also cannot be on the small appliance branch circuits.
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I'm looking for a Illuminated Decora rocker switch 2 wire that is CFL rated.......
An Illuminated switch has to dump the Illumination current (typically just a single neon) either through the load or directly to the neutral buss. If the load is Fluorescent then the neon is starved for voltage and either flickers or won't come on at all.

Without getting into your circuit configuration here is an illuminated switch circuit using a Decora Pilot Switch wired up so that it mimics a regular Illuminated switch except the neon current is dumped directly to neutral.
When the fluorescent lights are on the pilot Switch Neon is Off. It uses 3 Way switch as a single pole switch to the load while the other half turns off the neon indicator.
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Thanks for the diagram. I whose using a 15w CFL and thought about trying a 23w CFL (start-up current higher) and over night it seems to have worked. If this dosn't work out long term I will try the 3 way switch as suggested.

Thanks everyone,


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