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Old 01-04-2014, 10:57 AM   #1
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Hi all, need some assistance.

I have an existing 3-way switch that controls a ceiling light in the entry area from the garage. I recently just build a mudlocker that I am wanting to put a switched light in.

My goal is to tie into the existing 3-way switch and add a combination single pole/3-way switch to control the ceiling light and mudlocker light.

Does anyone have a diagram or willing to walk me through the correct wiring sequence?

The 3-way switch I am looking to tie into has (2) black wires, a red, and a ground.

Thanks!

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Not enough info to really answer but if the switch box does not have a white wire, no neutral is available and you cannot feed another switch/light. What is the wiriing method (cable or conduit) ?

What is a mud locker?

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Not enough info to really answer but if the switch box does not have a white wire, no neutral is available and you cannot feed another switch/light. What is the wiring method (cable or conduit) ?

What is a mud locker?
actually I did some digging and there is a bundle of white wires tied together. I'll get a picture up here in second.

Mudlocker = bench with cubbies by garage door.
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actually i did some digging and there is a bundle of white wires tied together. I'll get a picture up here in second. Mudlocker = bench with cubbies by garage door.


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Trying to understand what your doing. It looks from the picture that you have a cable coming into the box at the upper left and this I am assuming is the cable to the new mud locker light. Then it appears you have removed a 3 way switch and are going to install the combination switch in its place .. is that correct ?
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Trying to understand what your doing. It looks from the picture that you have a cable coming into the box at the upper left and this I am assuming is the cable to the new mud locker light. Then it appears you have removed a 3 way switch and are going to install the combination switch in its place .. is that correct ?
That is correct. The cable coming into the box is the new cable to the mud locker light. The 3-way switch has already been removed and the new combination switch is attached. The combination switch has one 3-way switch (to replace the removed 3-way) and a single-pole switch (to control the mud locker light).
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One of those two blacks needs to be power or constant hot. If the 3 way is on the switch leg of the circuit, in other words one of the blacks is a traveler from the companion three way switch elsewhere and the other black goes to the ceiling light you won't be able to switch your mudlocker light independently. so in a nutshell you need constant power present in that box to do what you want.
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One of those two blacks needs to be power or constant hot. If the 3 way is on the switch leg of the circuit, in other words one of the blacks is a traveler from the companion three way switch elsewhere and the other black goes to the ceiling light you won't be able to switch your mudlocker light independently. so in a nutshell you need constant power present in that box to do what you want.

Top black wire stays hot regardless of the position of the other switch.

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Yes find which of the two blacks is paired with the red wire in the same cable. Test the other black wire it will either be hot or no power. The fact that no whites are connected to the old 3 way tells me that one black will either be hot constant or black to the light and switched power.
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If you determined that the other 3 way does not switch the power on that black wire then you have constant hot and can do what you want. Do you have your instructions to the combination switch?
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Here is a link that should help you



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I'm no expert but I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have a neutral to tie to.
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Bingo! Got it, thanks guys.

Jeff, where in NC are you?


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Nice to hear it has worked out for you. Looks like an awful nice cabinet to put mud in ....LOL
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Nice to hear it has worked out for you. Looks like an awful nice cabinet to put mud in ....LOL
Thanks, it still needs to be caulked, sanded, and painted. The boss (wife) loves it so far and you know how it goes, happy wife happy life.

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