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Old 04-06-2012, 07:13 PM   #1
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Need some help to rewire a switched outlet. It is confusing to me bc there is 14/2 and 14/3 to work with. It is a single switch. I want to make the outlet hot. I will be running new wires to a new switch to control new ceiling lights and don't want the outlet switched anymore. We have done this before but this one is different for me. I can post pics later if needed. It has a red wire to the top brass screw. Two whites wire nut together. Black to bottom brass screw. This black is then wirenut to the black from the 14/2. The outlet I am trying to make hot is controlled by 14/2 wire. Thanks for your help.

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Old 04-06-2012, 07:19 PM   #2
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We disconnected it all. I believe I just need to connect blacks to black, grounds to grounds and whites to whites but don't know what to do with red wire.

Tried that... Outlet doesn't work. Other outlets are fine.

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Is this a duplex outlet? If so, did the switch control both the top and bottom receptacle?
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You can remove the short black jumper and then connect the red wire to the black wire. This is what the switch does......
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Thanks I'll try to connect the red to the black. Yes it was a duplex outlet that both were controlled by the switch.
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I am still having trouble. The other outlets work fine. I can't get the outlet (formerly switched) to work. It was a duplex that both top and bottom were controlled by switch. We replaced the outlet. I have the 2 blacks connected, 2 whites connected. What do I do with the one RED? I tried to connect it to each black and wire nut the extra wire. That didn't work.

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The red might have been the power to the receptacle.
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It has a red wire to the top brass screw. Two whites wire nut together. Black to bottom brass screw. This black is then wirenut to the black from the 14/2. The outlet I am trying to make hot is controlled by 14/2 wire. Thanks for your help.
Do you have a white going to the outlet at all?

You made a comment earlier about the entire outlet being switched. By your "wiring diagram", only the top outlet should have been switched.

But, to help you wire this correctly, we would need to know if the power comes in on the 3 wire, or 2 wire AND what wires are in the switch box.

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Is this what your setup looked like before you started taking conductors off of things???
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heres one way you could of done it: by attaching the red wire that was at the top terminal of your switch to the blacks that were wire nutted together at the switch
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heres another be eliminating the red wire at switch location and grabbing power at the outlet location
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You didn't give him the option of the 2 wire being a switch loop.

Bottom line is we need more information to help him wire this right. He needs to be able to tell us if the power comes in on the 3 wire or 2 wire, and what wires are at the switch.
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You didn't give him the option of the 2 wire being a switch loop.

Bottom line is we need more information to help him wire this right. He needs to be able to tell us if the power comes in on the 3 wire or 2 wire, and what wires are at the switch.

Yeah I guess Im assuming he has the power coming into the switch location. After further reading his explanation of the wiring at the switch location, it may be that the red wire from the 14-3 is the ALWAYS HOT and the black at the switch is the switched power to the outlet.

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At the switch location, can you test(do you know how to test) to see which wire is your always hot wire?

Also you say at the switch location you have a 14-2 and 14-3 cable. Switch has a red wire to the top brass screw. Two whites wire nut together. Black to bottom brass screw. This black is then wirenut to the black from the 14/2.

The black at the bottom terminal of the switch is this a pigtail to the black from the 14-2?

What is the black from the 14-3 doing at the switch location? Is it wire nutted with the black from the 14-2 and a pigtail to the bottom switch terminal?
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I think you are right, I read the OP as he was rewiring the switched outlet, but it seems (and make far more sense) that he is rewiring at the switch.

If he was rewiring at the switch, all he would have needed to do to begin with is wirenut all the blacks together with the red...no "extra wire".

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