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warmby 11-19-2007 12:34 AM

need help with retro lighting
 
I have a house built in the 60's. It has some interesting lighting that I need to replace a little of, but I'm having trouble even figuring out what to look for.

For all my light switches, I have, instead of switches that flip, just switches that push, up or down. It's hard to explain, but the best way to think of it is that it's impossible to see whether it's on or off by lookin at it. They're about the same width as a normal flip-type switch. I need to know what they're called so I can see if I can replace them.

Second problem is the banks of lights they put in. It's a dial light switch, that lets me pick any of the rooms in the home from a couple of master control dials, and turn off each of them. Or, if I push in and spin the dial all the way, I can turn all of them off or on. I need to know what these are so I can replace them also.

Thanks.

frenchelectrican 11-19-2007 01:03 AM

If i am reading this info right that you have what we called low voltage switching system which it mean you have low voltage switch and the switch wires run to the relay box which it will either turn on or off the reason why i was reading you say you have a dail that it can either turn on or off at any rooms so that one possiblty.

the other possiblty you have the X-10 system.

you have to excuse my poor explaintion terms with this sytem i am not fully 100% undestand how this work but bear with me for a sec.

this type of switching device used very high HZ for singal the spefcied switch to turn on and off by running the singal thru the building wires but only a quirk or two i know of so far.

one , they dont work very well with flourscent luminaires / bulbs

secondally. there are some generators they do make pretty good " noise " in the wires it can make the X-10 work goofy or irregular.

i will post the pic in a min so it will describe little more clearer [ IRRC i think they did disscused this before but not sure ]

Merci , Marc

see this link it will show one photo of one type http://www.diychatroom.com/showthrea...tage+switching

here the other photo it will look very simuair but not excat the same but it will give you the idea http://www.builtforjci.com/images/pr...s/LVS/lvs2.jpg

LawnGuyLandSparky 11-19-2007 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warmby (Post 74842)
I have a house built in the 60's. It has some interesting lighting that I need to replace a little of, but I'm having trouble even figuring out what to look for.

For all my light switches, I have, instead of switches that flip, just switches that push, up or down. It's hard to explain, but the best way to think of it is that it's impossible to see whether it's on or off by lookin at it. They're about the same width as a normal flip-type switch. I need to know what they're called so I can see if I can replace them.

Second problem is the banks of lights they put in. It's a dial light switch, that lets me pick any of the rooms in the home from a couple of master control dials, and turn off each of them. Or, if I push in and spin the dial all the way, I can turn all of them off or on. I need to know what these are so I can replace them also.

Thanks.

You do not have an X-10 system, this is a low voltage relay system, probably manufactured by GE. You may want to do a little research in this group:
gelv : GE Low Voltage Switching

220/221 11-20-2007 01:12 PM

Accck!

You probably have a mess. Your switches operate a relay which turns the lights on/off.


The switching is all low voltage and your relays are probaby in the attic.

Good luck.


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