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Old 11-02-2007, 03:14 PM   #46
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Merriam-Webster dictionary: fawn-1. To show affection. 2. To court favor in a flattering matter.

I guessed the breaker right....I bet that means I guessed the part about the career, too?

Get that breaker (remember to take the other one with you) and there is a good chance you'll be soaking tomorrow night. Does the booty still hurt from the tumble???

I'm off to Augusta tomorrow to see my Sis and my nieces and wire an addition to their house, But I should be around a computer all weekend. We are all dying to hear how the breaker works.

Don't freak if the breaker you get doesn't look EXACTLY like the breaker you are holding. What to look for is the profile on the "back" side of the breaker where it interfaces with the "busbar" in the panel. That part must be exact.

I'd be remiss( I know you don't like stuff repeated, but after all, you are a girl ) If I didn't say this breaker MUST be a GFCI. It will have a test button on it as well.

What music will be piped out the window? Will you have candles lit?? Maybe a little Barry White "Satin Soul"???

Confidence is high and we all look foward to hearing from you.

P.S. On that flickering light, try screwing the bulb in a little tighter.

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Old 11-02-2007, 09:28 PM   #47
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would you two please get a room????
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:30 PM   #48
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by the way, you are in good hands regarding the electrical advice.

It is the rest of the line of .... hmmm (stuff) that I am not so sure about.... lol
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:16 PM   #49
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She started it
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:00 PM   #50
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LOL Andy .,,

but i will reply to ya in french for a sec lol

" je ne dirai pas quelque partie dans ici "

it mean i am not going to say in here but other wise you handle pretty good with the electrical sisuation there.

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Old 11-03-2007, 07:10 AM   #51
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Damn, I took French in High school but that was almost twenty years ago.
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would you two please get a room????
My thoughts exactly!!
Andy might as well go install it for her and get his cookies!
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:58 PM   #53
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Okay... lots of good advice in more areas than one here.

Today I pulled out the breaker, and here's my (girl) question... Why does the breaker stay on now that it's out of the panel? Is that normal for a bad breaker, and you just don't know if it's good or not until you put it into the panel? Or is something else going on that I don't know about? It was very easy to pull out of there, and it had a little wiggle room to it, not a real tight fit like the others.

Surprisingly, (to me, at least) neither Lowes or Home Depot in town carries this breaker. They have a 30 or a 50, but no 40's (GFCI). The guy that tried to answer my questions (since the chick in the electrical dept. had no clue... I did recommend this site to her) said that I could put in a 30 but "that would be an annoyance". (?) I'm trying to find the place on the hot tub that tells me the minimum size I need, but haven't spotted that yet. I honestly don't mind if anyone out there repeats anything to me, I only wanted you to know that for a girl I can catch on to this stuff pretty quick. (no offense to the other girls out there, I've apparently offended enough people already, but will do better, I hope ;-} )

And I did already know that definition of fawning, just wanted to make sure there wasn't an alternate as there appears to be more than one definition of various desserts. (And I started it??? Hmmm...)

I have a couple more places in town to check for the breaker that aren't open on weekends (of course), so it'll be a couple days there. Anything I need to know with this new info? Thanks, as always...
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:25 PM   #54
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Any luck getting the breaker???

I love all desserts with all their definitions.
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Hey, Mr. Andy...

I found a place that stocks them here for the bargain price of $98. (!!) Someone at another place told me to throw a 50 in there instead of a 40, I can get those cheaper at Home Depot than the 40, and someone else told me I should be able to get by on a 30 for a hot tub. Your advice, please...
And what's the story on why it stays on now that it's out of the panel?

I'm trying not to be taken in by your world famous wit and charm and stick to the electrical stuff here. It's probably a good thing that you're not my neighbor...
My first question on this site and you're already getting me into trouble.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:06 PM   #56
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Honk,

The breaker size is determined by the wire size. If the tub is wired correctly you will have #8AWG which is good for 40A. I wouldn't go higher, but lower MIGHT work. As far as the breaker resetting...I don't know, maybe somebody else will chime in. You would love it if I was your neighbor!!
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Hello Honker

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Today I pulled out the breaker, and here's my (girl) question... Why does the breaker stay on now that it's out of the panel?
Because the fault that exists is no longer monitored by the gfci telling it to trip out. You have removed power by taking it from the panel so it ain't thinkin anymore. I haven't had time to read all of this thread so I may have missed something... at any rate....do you know anyone that is knowledgeable with electricity that you don't have to hire? Your scaring the be-jesus out of me working in that panel. You are turning the main off correct?

Do any of these look familiar...http://www.spa-pack.com/brett.htm

Your owners manual.....
http://www.alliedinnovations.com/pdf/OM-100.PDF

The brett aqualine em 100 uses a 50 amp circuit best I can find out. This is the spa pack not the hot tub maker....who would that be??


Is this your breaker and how many wires connected to it? Not counting the white one that you see on the breaker.
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let me step in here for a min.

Honker let me read this right.,, you unhooked the wires from the breaker and now stay on right ??

if so change breaker and reset it if not resetting at all then this will get little tricky to find a stubborn " worm " in the system anyway do you have any freinds are very good on electrical system ?? if so what have to do is check the connections [ most common curpit is the netural and ground is touching each other and trip the GFCI * it will do the same thing in AFCI as well but that diffrent story ]

as long you have the both hot wires unhooked at the breaker box then go to the spa subfeed disconnect switch there and turn that breaker[s] off and have someone have " multi meter " to " ring " aka ohm it out [ with power off of course ] check the netural to ground and hot[s] to ground btw the hot to ground should not regester anything on the multimeter during ohm reading time. and check the ground and netural at the subpanel make sure they are not touching eachother at subpanel.

once that part is ok then rehook up the wires back at the breaker box but leave the subpanel or spa disconnect switch off. turn on the breaker for that line back on it should not trip at all but if it did trip then you have a nick on the wires somewhere along the line [ i know it can be pain in the arse ] if every thing came out ok no tripping then turn on at the disconnect switch at the spa and the breaker stay on fine but if tripped at that point then you have to do little more digging in there [ my #1 hunch will be a inline heater ] right now i will put rest of the details on hold for now but just follow what i say here if not confable with this please let us know

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Hey, Stubbie!! Nice to hear from you again. Geez, I've kinda' missed you.

No worries on the main, I've been extremely careful there and have shut it off for everything, just to be safe. (thanks, though, for the concern. I got a good smile out of your wording there.) The hot tub power boxes that you pictured don't match mine, but the breaker does. There was three wires connected to it - red, black and white (other than the white one shown.) Totally makes sense about why it stays on now, thanks for that explanation. Don't know who made the hot tub, but I'll look around for something. The power box I have looks like it could be a little older than those you pictured, but hard to tell.

I'm pretty new to this area, and don't know anyone with cheap electrical knowledge that they'd like to throw my way, and I'm also the only one in the house with any desire to get better educated about how to make this stuff work. I really appreciate everyone's help, and would love to see this through to the end. (the satisfaction of a diy job well done, and all that...)
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And Mr. French...

Thanks as well for your info. Once I figure out the correct breaker size to put in, I will work from there. Earlier in the thread I had mentioned that there is no disconnect or breaker switch at the hot tub.

You've got quite an accent working there, it reminds me of writing to my friends from Germany. Thanks for jumping in.

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