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Old 08-23-2009, 10:21 PM   #16
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Cables fished into finished walls do not need to be secured inside the walls.

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If the wall is finished, how do you plan on stapling? You can staple at the top if dropped through an attic, or from the bottom if going in from the crawlspace or basement.
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Cables fished into finished walls do not need to be secured inside the walls.
So are you saying that the NEC code does not require that staples be used when cables are fished into finished walls? Great news for me is this is so.
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Can you run insulated or uninsulated ground conductors
under quarter round,
in grooves gouged into the drywall surface,
along corner edges (and then caulk over them)?
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So are you saying that the NEC code does not require that staples be used when cables are fished into finished walls? Great news for me is this is so.
Yes. The code does not require the fished wire to be stapled where it is not accessible. You do however have to staple it for the rest of the run where i is accessible.
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Can you run insulated or uninsulated ground conductors
under quarter round,
in grooves gouged into the drywall surface,
along corner edges (and then caulk over them)?
I will say tentatively, yes... the Code does allow for an individual ground wire to be run to a receptacle, but it must go back to the panel. It can't terminate on a water pipe or something. I would probably only do it that way in the most dire of circumstances, and if I did, I would use green insulated wire.
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I will say tentatively, yes... the Code does allow for an individual ground wire to be run to a receptacle, but it must go back to the panel. It can't terminate on a water pipe or something. I would probably only do it that way in the most dire of circumstances, and if I did, I would use green insulated wire.
Since my post, I realized that a single ground wire in the wall has free air to dissipate heat (but this wire may also be in a cable with two other wires that are warm).

But, a wire under quarter round or embedded in drywall will be insulated by the wood or gypsum.

This is a puzzling problem, and "tearing out walls" is riding on it.
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Since my post, I realized that a single ground wire in the wall has free air to dissipate heat (but this wire may also be in a cable with two other wires that are warm).

But, a wire under quarter round or embedded in drywall will be insulated by the wood or gypsum.

This is a puzzling problem, and "tearing out walls" is riding on it.
This wire would only be carrying current under a fault condition.
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This wire would only be carrying current under a fault condition.
Yeah, but you know how the NEC is.
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Well, thanks for all the comments. I feel much better how to go about doing this now......new wire, fish it through the walls and go to the main panel. Next step is to go buy all the material for the job.

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