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Old 06-02-2012, 03:26 PM   #1
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I have a house 2005 built on a slab. All wiring has been stolen from the attic, cut off at the top plate. Does anyone know of a simple way to repair this? Any special tools etc. What would a Electrical contractor do? I can do all the wiring have wired houses b4 but never a job like this. I do not want to tear/repair that much sheet rock. How does electricians splice wires without using junction boxes ? I was thinking of coming down about 10" from ceiling at each line thru the top plate and splicing. They left the wiring in the walls and did not destroy the walls. all outlets in tact. Looking for suggestions and how the pros do it.

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Code requires all splices to be in junction boxes and all boxes to remain accessible. What you're proposing won't fly.

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Have you contacted your insurance company?

I would fish all new runs of wire. In my experience copper thieves don't leave much to splice to and who knows if they tried yanking the wire out first. It could be damaged if they tried pulling it out of the walls. I have seen homes where they had ripped all the wire right out of the walls Anything they can't yank out gets cut as close as possible. I would not take any chances.
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Code requires all splices to be in junction boxes and all boxes to remain accessible. What you're proposing won't fly.
Article 300.15, as he stated, your best bet is a complete rewire
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How much could that wire be worth? They probably sell to recycler? Wondering...

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druggies do it. All they care is that they get enough for their next fix.
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Depending on weight and what you do with it, you can end up with at least enough money for your next high. The nearest recycler to me will give you approximately 3 bucks a pound if you're kind enough to strip all the insulation off.

That said, most of the sparkies I talk to at the shop I work at don't seem to bother recycling unless they get a substantial amount of decently heavy guage copper off a commercial job. A coworkers brother who runs a union crew in the Bay Area got a bunch of old 500 MCM off a big job site and ended up with about 1,200 bucks once he spent a few weekends stripping it all back.
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Now they are stealing the buss bars from the cellular repeater stations, that sit out in the country.
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If you punch the old box out you can use that hole to fish a new cable down from the attic.

Also a hole in one room can be used to fish wires that go to a box on the opposite side of the wall. So with careful planning the holes can be minimized, but some holes are going to be needed. Drywall patching is easy.
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Did you call the police? File an insurance claim? You shouldn't have to worry about fixing this, if you have homeowner's insurance.
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I have a house 2005 built on a slab. All wiring has been stolen from the attic, cut off at the top plate. Does anyone know of a simple way to repair this? Any special tools etc. What would a Electrical contractor do? I can do all the wiring have wired houses b4 but never a job like this. I do not want to tear/repair that much sheet rock. How does electricians splice wires without using junction boxes ? I was thinking of coming down about 10" from ceiling at each line thru the top plate and splicing. They left the wiring in the walls and did not destroy the walls. all outlets in tact. Looking for suggestions and how the pros do it.
I will not really trust what it was left behind at all due some people can try to tug it out much as possible and cut it off and I have see that kind of damage so therefore the only way you can do this is do the full rewired.

I know it is not easy but with very little punching in the drywall you can able snake in new cable(s) to the junction box.

And the other major thing you will have to do is find a way to lock the attic access door if they come in from the garage or other means because once those copper theifs find a way and they will come back and do it more so find a way to prevent from them entering.

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I just worked with my Master Electrician who is teaching me. We rewired a house that had this happen to it in the bacement. Just the other day some guys came in and got caught after stealing alot of what we did. What you will have to do is have the city send someone to look at it first and tell you what needs to be done. Then if you really know what your doing you can do the job fixing it. Otherwise let the pros handle it.

Keep in mind that the city WILL send someone to look at the work when done to make sure it meets code. Boxes for wire you splice ARE a must or you won't pass. Also make sure where your breaker box is, that they didn't damage that too when stealing the wires or it too will need to be replaced. I do this for a living and rewiring a house that has had the wires stolen is a BIG job. Make sure you know what your doing or the city will make you do it again until they deem its right.

About the wires in the wall.... you will maybe have to replace some drywall. You have to check the wires in the wall that could have been damaged in the process of stealing the wires. You will be happy if you do. Hope this helps anyone who is having this issue.

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