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Old 01-28-2012, 12:14 PM   #1
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Here's the panel I just bot. It's the Siemens G3030B1100CU. So 100AMP/30 spaces/30circuits.
I like the copper bus and the fact that the ground bar is included. The Siemens breakers also seemed like they're decent quality.
What I don't like are the plastic tabs that the breakers clip into.
What do you think? Is it a keeper?
I'm swapping out a 12/24 GE panel that is will be re-purposed to the garage/shop.
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Here's the panel I just bot. It's the Siemens G3030B1100CU. So 100AMP/30 spaces/30circuits.
I like the copper bus and the fact that the ground bar is included.
What I don't like are the plastic tabs that the breakers clip into.
What do you think? Is it a keeper?
I'm swapping out a 12/24 GE panel that is will be re-purposed to the garage/shop.
Well if you don't want it I'll take it.

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Old 01-28-2012, 12:29 PM   #3
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Lowes used to have a pretty good panel display. They have since done away with that. Had I known that it had plastic tabs for the breakers, I probably would have passed this one up.
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:42 PM   #4
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almost every loadcenter out there uses a plastic support anymore, sadly.
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Is this your main panel?
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Yes it will be the main and only panel. Since I'm completely redoing the electrical, I've decided to just replace the current panel rather than add a sub.
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Then your neutral and grounding wires can connect to both neutral bars. Be sure to sink down that green bonding screw as well.
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KB,it sounds like you have some experience with Siemens load centers. Did you ever come across one where a tab broke off rendering the space unusable? That's my biggest concern.
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I've never seen a broken tab.

All the tab is for is to keep the back of the breaker inline with the buss.
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Use Siemens a lot. Never seen a broken tab or broken one myself.
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I have used few differnt modern panels and I have NOT ran into any broken plastique tabs the only time I ever see the broken plastique support tab is someone try to install wrong breaker that was it.

You will be fine with the 30 space panel.

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Thanks guys, I'm going to keep it.
I went to Lowes to scour through some open boxes to see if all the brands are using the same cost cutting practices. For the most part, yes. The Square D homeline panels looks like they used even thinner plastic than Siemens. GE's panels do have a metal retainer clip so maybe it might be a slightly better panel.
The GE breakers, however, look like they've been kicked across the floor, kind of a poorly refurbished look, even the GE packaged AFCI's have that look to them.
I guess in the residential-load-center it's all about price so that drives a cheap build into the panels.
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Anything is an improvement over the ge panel
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plummen, Well if that's the case, I've got a used FPE panel that I might be able to interest you with.
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plummen, Well if that's the case, I've got a used FPE panel that I might be able to interest you with.
Ive got plenty of them federal pacific panels i keep laying around for spare parts for emergency jobs
As far as newer panels go I personally rate the ge stuff down towards bottem of pile

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