Is my electrician trying to KILL ME?

Hardway

SSay 240 30 amp load of compressor motor? I thought not, but asked.

mpoulton

The wiring in the panel appears to match the diagram. The 20A circuit is 240V-only and the 30A circuit is 120/240. How did you have it before? Did you follow the diagram? What makes you think there's something wrong?

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Jim Port

Unless all the wiring is inside the ground should not be bare.

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Speedy Petey

Not all 240V loads are heavy draw.
Just being 240V means nothing, other than the load is typically pretty well balanced.

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Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.

al_smelter

I don't understand this. What do you mean?

I can learn as easily as teach.

Jim Port

Wiring to a hot tub on the exterior of the house needs an insulated grounding conductor. The interior portion can be bare.

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RED7218

I guess I don't understand how a 2 pole GFCI works. I am looking for reassurance that the GFCI will function properly wired without a neutral wire. Is that true??

I still don't like how he just wrapped the hot tub ground around ground wire instead of taking it back to the buss bar. I cut it too short to reach the buss bar. Would it be OK to wire nut another short pig tail to it and reattach it directly to the buss bar?

BTW, The tub is located in the garage. (for now)

rrolleston

I think that would be a good idea.

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Speedy Petey

YES, a GFI WILL work without a load neutral connected.
The LINE neutral (white tail) from the breaker must still be connected to the neutral bar.

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Techy

2 pole gfi needs the 'line neutral' pigtail connected to the neutral bar, but does not require a 'load neutral' attached to the screw on the breaker

Jim Port

Yes you can extend the ground wire with a wire nut to reach the bus.

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RED7218

OK now I'm ready to come down out of my tree and let the wife and kids enjoy this thing.. I really appreciate the help. Again thanks a TON.

dmxtothemax

If he didn't want to kill you before !
He might want to now,
after he see's the post !
Some folks might not like someone saying,
" there trying to kill someone"

RED7218

I would have to think his sensibilites couldn't be that delicate if he's leaving hot tub ground wires unhooked. He can call me and complain if he recognizes his work..

Speedy Petey

Some folks are just too over-dramatic for their own good.

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Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.