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Old 04-19-2008, 09:47 PM   #1
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http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...411boxfill.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...oxconduits.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...4/jboxfill.jpg

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I haven't got the picture posting thing down yet, but here are a few violations I found this week.
This is from a remodel 11 years ago, and now a tear out for a yet to be determined remodel.

The floor is now open for discussion.

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Old 04-19-2008, 09:51 PM   #2
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You are going to have to tell me what is the violation for number 2 and 4. Nothing jumps out at me.

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You are going to have to tell me what is the violation for number 2 and 4. Nothing jumps out at me.
I thought about that after I posted. Box fill is ok, but with 2 conduits bringing in the 42 circuits might be an over fill problem.

I also failed to state that nothing was derated, all on 20 amp breakers.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:36 PM   #4
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This would be an interesting discussion but we need more than just photos to determine deration problems or conduit fill violations. We need number of conductors per conduit, conduit size, wire type and any multiwires etc...
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I haven't got the picture posting thing down yet, but here are a few violations I found this week.
Go to Photobucket.com or another hosting site and open a free account.


Edit....well duh...you have a Photobucket account.

You can upload a crapload of pics there and each one has it's own URL. Click the "direct link" on the pic you want and it will copy it to your clipboard. When you click the picture icon you will delete the http thingy and paste the copied URL. The pic will appear in the post.





I dug that hole and 3 others just like it by HAND (planting trees)

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Old 04-20-2008, 12:13 AM   #6
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Whew... darn big hole. What are the trees? Sorta look like Magnolas.
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What did that poor kid do wrong????
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Suh-WEEEET bar!

Hey, I gotta dig out underneath a 6x8 bump out in my house to install a full 42" deep strip footing. Wanna come over?

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What did that poor kid do wrong????
Nuthin'. 220's a liar-that picture was taken just as his kid was finishing the hole!
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I dug that hole and 3 others just like it by HAND (planting trees)

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Do that in the northeast and i would agree your a bad ass.
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This would be an interesting discussion but we need more than just photos to determine deration problems or conduit fill violations. We need number of conductors per conduit, conduit size, wire type and any multiwires etc...
OK. 1St picturs has 5 mwbc, 3 phase #12, thhn, with a #10 netural per mwbc. Total of 16 #12's and 5 #10's coming from a 1 " into a 411 box. #circuits leave this box and feed the cubes, 4 mwbc leave this box and continue into a 3/4 conduit.

Cu of box is 42. Since all wires are spliced, they count as 2 so 31 #12 is 69.75 cu, and 10 #10 is 25 cu, so therfore the box is filled to 94.75 cu, more than twice the box size.

Derating should be at 50%, but would be less, because of the conduit fill from the panel with all 42 circuits entering the large jbox from 2 1 1/4 inch conduits.
7 mwbc, plus a #10 for each mwbc should have a drating facter of 45, so each circuit should be on a 13.5 amp breaker!
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Nuthin'. 220's a liar-that picture was taken just as his kid was finishing the hole!
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Do that in the northeast and i would agree your a bad ass.
Thank you. Amazing what passes for dirt these days... up here we call that sugar. Did you get a look at his "shovel?"

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