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Old 11-07-2007, 04:26 PM   #16
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:35 PM   #17
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I do agree with this. Doing basic electrical work(changeing plugs, switches, etc) is very safe if you follow a few basic safety rules. I don't mind answering those questions when it comes to changeing breakers or adding services I usally try to avoid those quesitons.

I find the advice on this board very reliable and the correct info is being passed onto the poster.

I have answered questions on Yahoo Answers and refuse to even go to that site anymore. The advice that is giveing out over there is usually unsafe or incorrect. The latest was that someone asked if they could use 14/2 to wire up there fan to a GFI being fed from a 20A breaker. I wrote in and said absoulety not you need to use #12. Some idiot who said he was an electrician said it was fine to use 14 and the asked chose him as the best answer so you know what they did.

Another common question asked over there is if your allowed to use a GFI without a ground, of course you can but everyone elese says no you need a ground and they always pick them for the best answer.

At least on this site they are given the correct info and if someone gives something that is incorrect they are quickly fixed and usually backed up by a couple of people.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:02 PM   #18
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I agree that all advice here need to be taken with a grain of salt as you don't know the source. That said, often the description of the problem will lead me to believe the person is able to do the job without getting hurt or putting the system at risk. Anytime I don't know something, I don't post. Sometimes people just need a direction to start looking in. I am a professional, union electrician.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:17 PM   #19
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Let me tell a little story here...

In 1985 my father finished the basement in the house he and my mother still share. He did the plumbing and electrical. Could he afford to have it all subbed??? Certainly. But he wanted to LEARN. 16 years later my mother had me over to check on his work while he was out of town. He got a perfect score. This includes flipping the panel 180 deg. (power off, of course). Is this because he was lucky?? Smart?? God got involved?? No. He availed himself of all possible resources to learn how to do the job right. He will admit to anyone today he has forgotten 100% of it and would have to DO THE SAME RESEARCH AGAIN. There was no internet and yet he was successful.

No one should do anywork they don't feel comfotable doing. It is a bit arrogant of me to say that people CAN'T do the work. It is dangerous when energized and kills many people every year. IT MUST BE DONE CORRECTLY.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:33 AM   #20
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next good example is the service change over normally the service changeover is pretty much out of the average DIY area due there are multi codes to get involded in.
I can agree here. I just did a service changeover (new 200A overhead), and as a 20 year experienced electrical engineer (whose done 4160 power distribution systems) I still found the task a bit daunting at times, and had it not been for the excellent advise of the many professional electricians that visit this board, I would have been done for. The devil is in the details, and there are lots of them that I would not have even thought about when I started this task. Now that I've done it, I can honestly say, that I would probably hire it out next time.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:08 AM   #21
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As an electrical person, this site is great. Why? It gives me an incite into the strange & varied USA electrical system.

In Australia, it is absolutely illegal to do your own electrical work. That is, you can't DIY. I personally subscribe to one site where there is a plethora of electrical "would bes'" & the advice they give is far from reality. On occasions, it's bloody dangerous!

What can be done? Nothing because all users have been advised, even though they may not have read or understood the advice.

An unfortunate fact of the world is that there are "idiots". These "idiots" (whom I estimate to be about 80% of the worlds population) are their own worst enemy. Neither you or I can stop them from hurting themselves. For gods' sake, most of these people need instructions upon how to breath.

As far as this site is concerned, I think that it's better than the Australian site because that most people there (Australia) seem to be lulled into a false sense of security, which is "Australia has the best standards", so they think that they can get away with more error. It's a bit like ABS in cars...I can go faster & be just as safe. Complete rubbish!


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Old 11-08-2007, 02:15 PM   #22
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I guess I opened a can of worms didn't I?
All of the posts on this thread have validity. And I do agree that most that visit here are capable enough to do some jobs at home. I did not mean to disrespect anyone. I was just concerned at some of the advice I saw here.
But as you guys said it is usually corrected by another poster so I am sorry that I even brought up the subject.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:39 PM   #23
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Don't be sorry John, I think your post got some good responses.

Did you notice there was never a response from a moderator? Does this site even have one?
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J.V. Let me say that I do appreciate your original post on this subject.

Your concern for the safety and well being of the people on this site is admirable.

Your the type of people that make this site what it is!
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:01 PM   #26
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Don't be sorry John, I think your post got some good responses.

Did you notice there was never a response from a moderator? Does this site even have one?
Yes! Since we don't have many problems here, they kinda remain hidden!
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Did you notice there was never a response from a moderator? Does this site even have one?
I just saw this post for the first time. We have a Site Help and Suggestions forum that I actually monitor. These forums get far to many posts for me to read them all so sometimes I need to be notified.

First, I'd just like to say that this forum is a service where people can post their own content. We make no claims as to the accuracy of the content. The author of each post is responsible for what they say. These forums wouldn't exist if each post had to be checked for accuracy.

Before anyone acts on what they have read on this or any user generated content site they should check a reliable source. Failing to do so could cause property damage, injury, or even death. This is spelled out in our Terms of Service.

If you see something that you feel is dangerous please notify us and we will do our best to check it out and remove bad advice. If you see something do not assume we have already seen it because many posts go unread every day. I am also not an expert on most of these topics so please also give us an explination of what is wrong and why.
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