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Old 12-13-2008, 11:39 AM   #1
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I have an outlet that is a middle of the run outlet and the only way the there is any power to the outlet is to have the switch on. The switch is connected to a light then to the outlet then to another light all on the same run. The only wires that are inside of the outlet are just the common 3 wires. The wires come from the light overhead to the switch and then from the switch to the other lights over the sink. How can I change the outlet to a steady ON instead of ON only when the switch is applied.


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Is this in a bathroom?

If so it sounds like someone tapped a receptacle off the lighting switch leg. There is NO WAY you will be able to make it live all the time without re-wiring or adding wires.
Remember, adding a new receptacle in a bathroom requires a separate 20A circuit.

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it is the bathroom and what would I have to do to rewire this to get constant power
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Need to run new 12 awg to your bathroom and put it on a 20 amp circuit.

If your local codes permit romex, Id fish romex from your panel to the bathroom.

If you use romex, 12/2 with ground and a single pole 20 amp breaker would do.

Use a gfci, 15 (duplex) or 20 amp, it doesn't matter.
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There's no evidence to believe that this circuit isn't already dedicated to the bathroom. So, to keep it simple, you need to find where the feed comes into the room. It may be at the switch, or the first light box. You need to take a 12-2 from that point to your receptacle box. Join the new 12-2 to the feed by joining the wires according to their color.
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You need to better describe the wiring.

Forget the bare ground wires fior this discussion.

A 2 wire cable = black, white enclosed in a single sheath.

How many cables/ wires are there in each of the boxes (at all lights and the switch)



Recep box = 1 cable, 3 wires, black, white and bare

Ceiling light box = ?

Sw box = ?

Wall light? box #1 =

Wall light box #2 =

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