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Old 07-16-2009, 09:34 PM   #1
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Is there anything in the code that prohibits placing lights and wall outlets on the same circuit? I know about the no other outlets on the kitchen small appliance circuits, but can the bedroom lights and outlets be together, living room outlets and lights, etc.
Another thing, on the kitchen small appliance circuit there is an exception for "Receptacles installed to provide power
for supplemental equipment and lighting on gas-fired
ranges, ovens, or counter-mounted cooking unit", does the hood/light above the stove count as "supplemental equipment"?(this is a gas stove btw)

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Is there anything in the code that prohibits placing lights and wall outlets on the same circuit? I know about the no other outlets on the kitchen small appliance circuits, but can the bedroom lights and outlets be together, living room outlets and lights, etc.
Another thing, on the kitchen small appliance circuit there is an exception for "Receptacles installed to provide power
for supplemental equipment and lighting on gas-fired
ranges, ovens, or counter-mounted cooking unit", does the hood/light above the stove count as "supplemental equipment"?(this is a gas stove btw)
Yes, the lights and receptacles can be on the same circuit. I personally try to avoid that. No, the vent hood cannot be power from the appliance circuit, unless it is part of the stove itself.

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It's nice to have recs and lights on separate circuits that way if one blows you aren't left entirely in the dark.

When I was a little girl and having trouble remembering to turn off the lights when I left a room my dad decided to take action. First he took the light bulbs out of ceiling fixture. Next, he killed power to the entire room. Little did he know that I discovered that the closet light still worked... I can still remember taking all my shoes off the shoe-shelf and sitting in the bottom of my closet and reading until the wee hours of the night.
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It is very common to have the bedroom receps and lights on the same circuit, especially given the AFCI requirements for sleeping areas in pre-2008 editions of the NEC. Cheaper to do it that way!
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It's nice to have recs and lights on separate circuits that way if one blows you aren't left entirely in the dark.
unless you are in the bathroom with the door closed this is rarely an issue, yet it seems to be a very popular opinion for some reason.

This opinion makes it seem like every light in the whole house is on one circuit and you would be left in pitch black if any breaker ever tripped.
I can tell you from experience, this is not usually the case.
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Thanks for the replies guys and gal. Couple of more questions. GFCI's are required at the front and rear of house(outside), can these be ran off of a nearby circuit or will I have to run a circuit just for them?
The bathroom is very small w/a closet, it has one gfci outlet, a light above the sink and a light in the closet. Can the "sink light" and closet light be ran off the gfci circuit? Seems like I read an exception about being able to, as long as it was the same bathroom. It's the only bath in the house. Additionally, I have a 20 amp dedicated circuit for the heater/vent/light combo in the ceiling.(for those that were wondering)
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You can use any close circuit as long it is not the small appliance circuits from the kitchen/dining room.
As long as the circuit feeding the bathroom does not leave that bathroom, the you can put the lights on that circuit
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I have 8 dedicated 20a outside circuits
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I prefer my GFCI inside, protecting a reg circuit outside
Any outside outlet under NEC 2008 has to be weather resistant (WR) now
So a normal WR outlet is a LOT less then a GFCI WR

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So it's generally normal to run separate circuits for the lighting apart from the receptacles? I guess this would mean that some bedrooms would all have their lighting run off of one breaker (as would the receptacles). I'd like to isolate each room to it's own breakers. Is this normally not done?
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So it's generally normal to run separate circuits for the lighting apart from the receptacles?
Nope, not "normal", just individual preference.

For bedrooms, living rooms, dens and similar rooms, and the occasional bath I typically mix receptacle and lighting.
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when you see the price of those arkfault breakers you will leave it all alone

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