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Old 08-01-2013, 01:44 PM   #16
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...but is it a code violation to (secure the box with a couple of screws) like that? Just askin!
It's no more of a code violation than the madison straps...
and far less likely to ever be a shocking issue.

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Old 08-01-2013, 09:18 PM   #17
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Oh sure. But what I was asking if anyone knew if the NEC had anything to say about boring through the sides of approved boxes to add new fasteners.
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Oh sure. But what I was asking if anyone knew if the NEC had anything to say about boring through the sides of approved boxes to add new fasteners.
The NEC will refer to the UL listing which doesn't have any approved means to secure a box aside from what it had with/on it when the lab tested the design.

When UL wants a box to have nails or screws running through it...
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I think I understand then, the implication being “it is not a good idea to add your own new holes in the box”?
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I think I understand then, the implication being “it is not a good idea to add your own new holes in the box”?
unless you have a loose box and don't want to do any drywall work
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unless you have a loose box and don't want to do any drywall work
lol Yes! But you forgot to add " and you don't care what the NEC says" lol
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OK Guys.... Just trying to stir something up.... but to our code experts... what if you ran a grounding clip to that F clip????

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OK Guys.... Just trying to stir something up.... but to our code experts... what if you ran a grounding clip to that F clip????

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You could, but it will be hard to do, since they are malleable tin. You would have to find a fitting that would fit over the one clip, then you are taking away space from the side of the box. So again you are really not fixing anything.
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I would run screws through the side myself, but you could de-energize the circuit and cut out the box careful not to damage wire. Then add a deep cut in box
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As for the plastic boxes getting pulled out through the opening, there is more at hand, then just a lose box in the wall. Hack job comes to mind. Those boxes are rated for a certain amount of shear force, before they are able to be yanked off the nails or screws holding them to the wood stud.
Was wondering why no one responded to that. Couldn't that explain it. Would it be better to just cut out the old box and put in an old work box that would grab the wall nice and tight. Just a thought from a newbie.

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