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Old 07-04-2013, 10:57 AM   #16
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They have 6 foot plug end cords attached. They are UL and CSA listed. I have 2 of these http://www.mockett.com/technology-in...6-ee-m-90.html in my island with the cooktop. They are on a GFCI breaker and they plug into an outlet inside the island cabinet where the cooktop plugs in. Inspector was OK with it as long as the plugs were accessible and it was GFCI protected.
Chit.... I don't want to pick a bone with you.... but I don't think that is humerous.


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They have 6 foot plug end cords attached. They are UL and CSA listed. I have 2 of these http://www.mockett.com/technology-in...6-ee-m-90.html in my island with the cooktop. They are on a GFCI breaker and they plug into an outlet inside the island cabinet where the cooktop plugs in. Inspector was OK with it as long as the plugs were accessible and it was GFCI protected.
No inspector I know would accept those.
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Highly doubt those would fly with an inspector. UL listed doesn't necessarily mean legal. For a desk or movable piece of furniture...yes. For a counter top...no.
Completely agree. They are no different than permanently mounting a plug strip, which is NOT legal.

If they were hard wired in a box, like the ones usair showed, they are OK.
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Your inspector did not do his homework. It took me all of 30 seconds to find the information from UL that your installation is not compliant with UL's listing.

Below is the link to the listing number on the manufacturer's website. Notice that it is considered a "relocatable power tap".

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...503&sequence=1

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Relocatable power taps are not intended to be permanently secured to building structures, tables, work benches or similar structures, nor are they intended to be used as a substitute for fixed wiring.
http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...503&sequence=1
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Interesting replies. Maybe our inspector just took a guess and said OK. So I would assume that cutting off the plug and hard wiring into the box is not acceptable. Will have to see if usair posts a link to the one he showed in the picture. Am willing to replace these as long as the hole required is the same or larger.
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At this point, I'd leave them as is. If the inspector gave his blessing, I wouldn't worry about it.

I was just stating that those should not be legal for the OP's purposes.
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K_buz, the problem is not when the inspector goes through after finish work, it is when the homeowner or renter pulls out the cheap extension cords, and cheap power strips and use those.

The only time I have had to use a surge strip in my kitchen, was with our Microwave, due to we had it on a metal shelf in front of a window, and the cord did not reach the outlet on the wall below the window. Now it is no longer, because we rearranged the Kitchen, and I have redone all of the electrical, but still have some minor work.

What is even worst, is when people do baths and Kitchens, and put in minimum outlets, not thinking that someone is going to plug something in somewhere else on the counter, or say have cellphone chargers or cordless phonesets always plugged in.
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This is the one I like the look of:
http://tnblnx3.tnb.com/emAlbum/album...8314hr_cl1.pdf
But, it is pricey (400+or-) and last I knew, there was an engineering hold on it. The revised unit was supposed to be available May1.

So, I would probably go with this one.
http://www.electricsuppliesonline.co...box-cover.html
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I disagree. I think it is a problem when an inspector doesn't do his job correctly. Either passing something that isn't legal, or not passing something that is legal. Both situations have been presented in this thread.
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Highly doubt those would fly with an inspector. UL listed doesn't necessarily mean legal. For a desk or movable piece of furniture...yes. For a counter top...no.
WHy wouldn't it if they are wired with #12 AWG and GFCI protected?
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Stick, the ones under discussion were cord and plug connected.
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Stick, the ones under discussion were cord and plug connected.
Thanks Jim, I went back and noticed that as well.
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Now of course pictures in this thread really helps, and you should know that after 426, so that others have an idea of what you are talking about.
I really don't have any presentable pictures. I typically attach pictures if I thought it's needed, but this one seem pretty straightforward, basically there is nothing on the entire "front" wall above the countertop to have a receptacle. But...here is a picture.

This wall will have the sink & dishwasher.



Range, fridge, microwave, fan hood etc...will be on another wall.
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Yeah, you are SOL on trying to get any outlets on that wall where you need them. Not going to happen with that window there.
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Time to talk to your inspector for options.

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