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yummy mummy 12-02-2007 10:32 PM

Live wire hanging from basement ceiling
 
There is a live wire (14/2) hanging from the ceiling in my basement.
I have tested it with a testing device that I have.

I imagine it is travelling to somewhere on the first floor?

I have contacted the contractor about this and he said he will come and take a look.

I would like to ask what he will do with this wire?
Or a better question is what is the proper way of dealing with this wire.

Thanks

chris75 12-02-2007 10:38 PM

Install it in a j-box with a cover... it was probably for something in the future that never happened...

Stubbie 12-02-2007 10:54 PM

Stick a line voltage smoke on it, it won't be interconnected with the others but will be something that is good for property protection and it will look better than a j-box.

yummy mummy 12-02-2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stubbie (Post 78030)
Stick a line voltage smoke on it, it won't be interconnected with the others but will be something that is good for property protection and it will look better than a j-box.

What is a "line voltage smoke"?


Thanks

Ron6519 12-02-2007 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yummy mummy (Post 78031)
What is a "line voltage smoke"?


Thanks

It's a smoke detector wired to the 14-2 line that's live in the basement.
Ron

yummy mummy 12-02-2007 11:15 PM

That means I will have 2 smoke detectors in the ceiling?

Also, if he puts a junction box with a cover on it, this is ok to cover with drywall correct?


Thanks

Ron6519 12-02-2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yummy mummy (Post 78036)
That means I will have 2 smoke detectors in the ceiling?

Also, if he puts a junction box with a cover on it, this is ok to cover with drywall correct?


Thanks

You can't bury a junction box behind drywall. It will need to be removed/rerouted to an accessible area.
If the other smoke detector is a battery model, go with the wired unit.
Ron

ponch37300 12-02-2007 11:36 PM

No you can't cover the box with drywall. all junction boxes must be accesable. You can drywall around it just like an outlet and put a blank cover on it. If you don't like any of these options you can try to find were this wire goes to and eliminate it.

s0lidgr0und 12-03-2007 12:20 AM

I always recommend using one's tongue to test if the wire is live.

:points at disclaimer:

Stubbie 12-03-2007 12:49 AM

Yummy as Chris said it was supposed to go to something that never happened. It should have been ended in a Jb. Put a light there.... something useful. This is a basement right? Is it going to be finished? ....sounds like it if your worried about drywall. What I'm saying is if it has no purpose...give it one....or track it back to its origin as ponc said and remove it if it is in a place that isn't going to be useful. You could pull the romex back to the furnace area or somewhere to be used another day. If it isn't where you going to want a ceiling fixture pull it back to an accessible area, and cap it in a junction box to be used for something another day. Of course give the contractor time to see if he can figure out what the deal was for the cable. The thing is if it goes somewhere upstairs its going to have to have a jb to extend it and that means your going to have to have access to that jb so if you do not replace the cable then its going to have to have a ceiling vent or something installed in the drywall to give you access if you dont put a ceiling fixture box in to act as the jb.


Is it part of another branch circuit or is it a dedicated line?

frenchelectrican 12-03-2007 05:31 AM

just wondering if that alive wire is located below the kitchen area ?? if so some possiblty someone have a idea to add the island at later date ??

but if you have NCVT [nonconcat voltage tester] can you turn off the breaker one a time until the line go dead and can map it out where it will run from or what ??

but some case i know some peoples done the demo or remodeling and forgot the extra live wire in basement which it do happend from time to time.


Merci, Marc

skymaster 12-03-2007 01:44 PM

Yuuuuuuuuuummmmmmyyyyyyyy : Are you sure it is alive, NOT getting that way from your exciting and electric personality?:laughing:

yummy mummy 12-03-2007 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stubbie (Post 78047)
Yummy as Chris said it was supposed to go to something that never happened. It should have been ended in a Jb. Put a light there.... something useful. This is a basement right? Is it going to be finished? ....sounds like it if your worried about drywall. What I'm saying is if it has no purpose...give it one....or track it back to its origin as ponc said and remove it if it is in a place that isn't going to be useful. You could pull the romex back to the furnace area or somewhere to be used another day. If it isn't where you going to want a ceiling fixture pull it back to an accessible area, and cap it in a junction box to be used for something another day. Of course give the contractor time to see if he can figure out what the deal was for the cable. The thing is if it goes somewhere upstairs its going to have to have a jb to extend it and that means your going to have to have access to that jb so if you do not replace the cable then its going to have to have a ceiling vent or something installed in the drywall to give you access if you dont put a ceiling fixture box in to act as the jb.


Is it part of another branch circuit or is it a dedicated line?

I have no idea what it is for. It just goes up to the first floor.

yummy mummy 12-03-2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skymaster (Post 78133)
Yuuuuuuuuuummmmmmyyyyyyyy : Are you sure it is alive, NOT getting that way from your exciting and electric personality?:laughing:

Yes, Jackie, it is live, but no match for me. :laughing:

yummy mummy 12-03-2007 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponch37300 (Post 78039)
No you can't cover the box with drywall. all junction boxes must be accesable. You can drywall around it just like an outlet and put a blank cover on it. If you don't like any of these options you can try to find were this wire goes to and eliminate it.


Why can't you put it in a junction box and cover the jb and then drywall over it?

I'm just curious, I'm not going to do it.


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