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Startingover 05-21-2012 04:33 PM

Lights inside tub & shower?
 
Have never had this before. There are recessed lights in the actual shower stall and also, in the other bathoom, there is a light straight over the tub.

Is this common? I'm not comfortable with this electricity over damp wet places with water splashing all around.

k_buz 05-21-2012 04:45 PM

VERY common. As long as there is an enclosed trim and gasket installed you are good to go.

Thurman 05-21-2012 07:24 PM

Very common indeed, and I have made good monies putting these in. The key to this type installation, as stated, is an approved light fixture with proper trim/gasket. This is considered a "damp proof" installation versus a "wet proof" installation where the fixture would be subjected to a lot of water actually hitting the fixture. It's just amazing the things you will find in your shower once you have add direct lighting. :thumbup:

frenchelectrican 05-22-2012 12:09 AM

I have done this all the time however there is a nice gotcha what most peoples miss this part when they install the shower recessed luminarie that have to be on GFCI ( it will be noted in the installment instruction ditto with fart fan as well )

You have to be carefull when you bring this thru the switch box to keep the GFCI circuit and non GFCI circuit seperated ( the key issue is you can not cross the netural on this one otherwise you will trip it as soon you hit the switch )

Merci,
Marc

k_buz 05-22-2012 12:15 AM

I have never put a shower recessed on a GFI and have never been required to by an inspector. Bath fans...yes...

frenchelectrican 05-22-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 926212)
I have never put a shower recessed on a GFI and have never been required to by an inspector. Bath fans...yes...

I almost got nailed with one of the inspector in Wisconsin but In France it pretty much SOP for me to run RCD ( GFCI ) for that arrangment.

Most inspector will have some leeway with GFCI with recessed luminaire but once you get over 8 foot IIRC ya are free on that.

Merci,
Marc

rrolleston 05-22-2012 01:20 AM

I usually put the light and bath fan on a lighting circuit am I doing it wrong?

Startingover 05-22-2012 08:31 AM

french,

how do I know if my shower/tub recessed lights have GFI?

I know about the GFI at the sinks and how to test them, but where would it be located for the shower/tub? Or are they all tied onto the sink GFI?

Jim Port 05-22-2012 08:59 PM

GFI protection can be in the form of a GFI receptacle, a deadfront GFI or a GFI breaker.

You could trip the GFI and see if the lights go out.

RR, that is a typical way to wire the fans and lights.

Startingover 05-23-2012 09:50 PM

Jim,
tripping the gfi to see if the lights go out.........I wouldn't have thought of that. THANKS.

kbsparky 05-24-2012 07:42 AM

You are not required to have GFCI protection on lights over the tub/shower unless that manufacturer specifies it.

Most exhaust fans do have such a requirement, however.

I'd opt for a sealed LED trim over the tub in any case.

Startingover 05-24-2012 08:33 AM

kb,

By sealed are you saying there's lights available where the actual bulb isn't exposed, but protected by a shield or piece of plastic? If so, it sounds easy enough to have an electrician change them. THANKS!

Jim Port 05-24-2012 08:55 AM

Just look for a shower rated trim from the same brand as the recessed housing.

BTW, some open bulb trims are shower rated with the correct bulb.

Startingover 05-24-2012 09:07 AM

thanks jim,

Seems I've been going to the building store every day.

kbsparky 05-24-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Startingover (Post 927761)
kb,

By sealed are you saying there's lights available where the actual bulb isn't exposed, but protected by a shield or piece of plastic? If so, it sounds easy enough to have an electrician change them. THANKS!

You can change them yourself.

Here is one example:

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...35706448xl.jpg


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