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Old 05-16-2012, 01:31 PM   #1
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My wife and I just purchased a new home and I decided to add lighting the the bedrooms as there were no lights (only swithc controlled outlets). I installed one the other ngiht with no issue. The cable ran into the box, and tehre was another cable running out of the box - both seperated by the switch. I was able to tie into the wires and the light works like a charm.

In the one room there is the switch with the nuetral and the hot wires connected to the switch only (rahter than the bundal of wires coming in and one going out). The white nuetral wire is carrying the charge. I have tried to pigtail into the wire, but the lgiht is not working. I'm hoping someone can give me some pointers on how to get this light going. Its a little ahrd to change the baby's diaper in the dark!

I am hoping its an easy fix.

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so to take a step backwards... are you trying to install ceiling fixtures and control them by the switch that is controlling the switched outlets??

how many wires are coming into the switch box??

you say that the white wire is hot??? if so, then constant power is going to the receptacle first, then a 2-wire with the white wire connected to constant hot is carrying power to the switch. the return path for the switch is the black wire of that 2-wire cable and is connected to the part of the receptacle that is "switched". the white wire on this cable should have a band of black tape on both ends to identify it as being hot.


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And not understanding that one of them is a "Switch Leg" rditz. This I would like to see pictures to see how they "wired" up these ceiling lights.
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It is called a switch loop, that white wire is not a neutral.

You will need a new power feed in order to hook up lights.

This can be done in a variety of ways.
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I am putting in wall fixtures. I am trying to run the light with the power from the outlets (which is ultimately controlled by the switch). It worked succesfully in other parts of the house.

There are three wires coming coming into the box - black, white, and the ground. the white is carrying the charge into the switch.

Code05 - do you mean that this setup requires a new line to be run?

I appreciate the quick reply.

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The white is a constant hot. It is not a neutral. You will need to run a new cable.
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There are three wires coming coming into the box - black, white, and the ground. the white is carrying the charge into the switch.
really there is 1 cable which has black/white/gnd...

go to your switched receptacle and make your connections there....

black from switch to black for your light
white and gnd from switch - leave them alone
White from light connect to the neutral that is coming in along with constant power or from neutral on receptacle.
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really there is 1 cable which has black/white/gnd...

go to your switched receptacle and make your connections there....

black from switch to black for your light
white and gnd from switch - leave them alone
White from light connect to the neutral that is coming in along with constant power or from neutral on receptacle.
Or switch the wires around at the switched receptacle so that you have a hot and a neutral entering your switch box. That way you dont have to refish your ceiling light wire.

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