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10-30-2010, 08:33 AM
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Master General ReEngineer
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Hi, I'm remodeling/ rebuilding the lower floor of a house here in extreme northern Ny...
It's a single room with 3 light fixtures, 'n 3 outlets. Total load will be well under 20amps.
Is it to code to run a single breaker that controls Both the lighting, 'n the outlets...
Or,
Do I have to run seperate circuits, 1 for lighting, then another for the outlets ? ?
Thank you...
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10-30-2010, 08:41 AM
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Master Electrician
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Unless there are local restrictions there is absolutely nothing wrong with wiring the room as you propose.
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10-30-2010, 08:47 AM
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Xtreme DIY'r
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
I usually add lights to an existing lighting circuit
I prefer to keep them separate
But as stated nothing wrong with putting them all together
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10-30-2010, 09:41 AM
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Licensed electrician
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Given the low load and the cost of an additional AFCI breaker at $50 I would just use one circuit.
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10-31-2010, 09:16 AM
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Master General ReEngineer
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Ayuh,.... Thanks guys,... You all confirmed my thoughts....
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10-31-2010, 12:24 PM
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Newbie
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
If you plug something in that trips the breaker it might get a little dark.
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10-31-2010, 01:21 PM
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmc1981
If you plug something in that trips the breaker it might get a little dark.
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If it rains, you might have a roof leak!
People are so worried aboiut tripping breakers.
The last time I tripped a breaker was......Never at home. 
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10-31-2010, 01:42 PM
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Your right I think I've had a beaker trip once in my house.
I work in a industrial plant I'm just usto breakers tripping.
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11-01-2010, 04:47 AM
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Master General ReEngineer
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmc1981
If you plug something in that trips the breaker it might get a little dark.
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Ayuh,... That's what Flashlights are for,... 
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11-01-2010, 07:56 AM
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
If there is a lot of lighting load to be put on the same circuit (rare in a home setting), a separate circuit for the lighting is recommended. You don't want a 15 ampere circuit to "deceptively" have only 7 or 8 amps for things you plug in. (Or a 20 amp circuit to have only 12 or 13 amps remaining)
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11-01-2010, 09:20 AM
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Master General ReEngineer
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllanJ
If there is a lot of lighting load to be put on the same circuit (rare in a home setting), a separate circuit for the lighting is recommended. You don't want a 15 ampere circuit to "deceptively" have only 7 or 8 amps for things you plug in. (Or a 20 amp circuit to have only 12 or 13 amps remaining)
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Ayuh,... Thanks Allen,...
Anticipated load is 3 60w overhead lights, 'n maybe a tablelamp...
Outlet loads should only be a TV, 'n possible a small music center...
I think a single 20amp circuit should cover it all...
Also,... All wiring is 12ga. 3 conductor wire...
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11-01-2010, 09:21 AM
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Newbie
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bondo
Ayuh,... That's what Flashlights are for,... |
Just make sure you have a flash light in your back pocket every time you plug in something.
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11-01-2010, 09:28 AM
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Xtreme DIY'r
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Lighting, 'n outlets on the same breaker ??
I have flashlights in my house
Not hard to find them when needed
And my key chain has a small LED flashlight
And I've had far more short power outages from weather etc VS breakers tripping
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