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Old 06-23-2012, 10:05 PM   #1
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Light Switch OFF but light is on - Help!


I have removed my existing fluorescent strip lights in my kitchen/dinette and installing recessed, but I have a slight problem. I am trying to take power from a three way switch and take it to a light in the back hall. This light in the hall will be controlled only from a single pole switch

Take a look at the attached file for a diagram of what I have going on. I have an incoming 14/2 into a switch box where it is hooked up to a 3-way switch (to control the kitchen/dinette lights). The incoming black is pigtailed to the black of another 14/2 that goes to a light and all the whites are wire nutted together. I have verified the 3-way switches are functioning correctly, but the hall light goes on only when the switch is 'off'.

Any ideas where I went wrong? After flicking the single pole switch to 'on' the breaker trips.

Thanks in advance for the help!
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If the breaker trips when you move the switch, that means that you have created a short somewhere. A 3-way switch would have a Traveler, Common & hot connected to each switch. Hot could be Red or Black. You can also have a 3-way Switch leg, if power comes in at the light. Really need pictures on this one.

When and why was the single pole switch added? It would not be in this situation, if the light is controlled by a 3-way, which you show. There is more here than what you are stating.

BTW, the Single pole would be a "Switch leg". When you put in the light, you mis-wired as I stated before. Also, these "quick" clips you used, are they Wago's, or something else?

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You have the hot from the 3 way switch tying directly into the fixture.
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Then you have the switch leg coming off the switch and tying into the neutral creating a dead short.
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Take the wires from the switch out of the quick connectors. Take the hot out of the quick connector as well. The white (taped black) from the switch goes to the hot. The black from the switch goes to the fixture black.
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Try this diagram this is the same as K_buz mention



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Gregzoll - A .pdf diagram is attached - I am controlling a hall light from a single switch which takes its power from a three way switch. The quick connectors are built into the recessed Commercial Electric fixture.
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k_buz - Thanks for the help! Works great now! Wow - recessed lighting is so different from those 4' fluorescent fixtures!
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k_buz - Thanks for the help! Works great now! Wow - recessed lighting is so different from those 4' fluorescent fixtures!
No, there is nothing different about the two. They both get hooked up the same. It is just that you wired the switch leg up incorrectly, when you replaced the fixture. Simple mistake.
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gregzoll - I was just talking about the difference between the light output and the feel of the lighting - not the wiring.

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