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Old 01-04-2012, 05:08 PM   #1
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this may sound really stupid but... so I removed my old siding and replaced much of the sheathing (rotted), them I wrapped and sided the house in vinyl with those cute little "stand off" light box thingys. So now to my question: was I supposed to install a light junction box (blue round type) behind the vinyl nail on box? So far I'm done with the siding and just drilled a hole in the sheathing from inside... I don't have the fixtures yet so I'm not really sure how they are supposed to mount to a flat piece of plastic, and where do i put the wires? just behind the plastic against the house? that doesn't seem right. thanks for any input. 1
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There are different style mounts for lights. Your connections do need to be in a box, or the equivalent.

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http://www.amazon.com/Arlington-8141.../dp/B002W6ZOCO

What do you have now? Just a blank front?
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Old 01-04-2012, 05:20 PM   #3
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this may sound really stupid but... so I removed my old siding and replaced much of the sheathing (rotted), them I wrapped and sided the house in vinyl with those cute little "stand off" light box thingys. So now to my question: was I supposed to install a light junction box (blue round type) behind the vinyl nail on box? So far I'm done with the siding and just drilled a hole in the sheathing from inside... I don't have the fixtures yet so I'm not really sure how they are supposed to mount to a flat piece of plastic, and where do i put the wires? just behind the plastic against the house? that doesn't seem right. thanks for any input. 1
They make special boxes that mount right onto the siding that sit very nicely and the wiring goes in it.
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They make special boxes that mount right onto the siding that sit very nicely and the wiring goes in it.
one half goes onto the sheathing with the wire poked out inside it...
the other half goes on AFTER the siding is done when the device or fixture is mounted.

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Lowes and any real siding supply will have siding blocks with the wiring box built right in to it.
For a light it mounted horizontal, an outlet it goes vertical.
Nail it on wire it done.
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one half goes onto the sheathing with the wire poked out inside it...
the other half goes on AFTER the siding is done when the device or fixture is mounted.

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What I'm talking about is what the first guy posted
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There are different style mounts for lights. Your connections do need to be in a box, or the equivalent.

Check this:

http://www.amazon.com/Arlington-8141.../dp/B002W6ZOCO

What do you have now? Just a blank front?

I don't know how to post a pic but it's what I got from my siding supply house to mount lights, it nails to the sheathing then you install the vinyl then a trim ring pushes in place, it is flat in the front with a hole to feed wire through. it seems pretty typical as I see them on everyhouse I drive by with this type of siding, I just don't know if they have a box underneath or not... sound like I need one and I can still put one in it will just be a little bit of a hassle. thanks, 1
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This is the easyest one to install.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_89145-271-EB...%7C1&facetInfo=
If you have a larger light then there is a trim ring they also sell that replaces the supplyed trim ring to make it look better.
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I don't know how to post a pic but it's what I got from my siding supply house to mount lights, it nails to the sheathing then you install the vinyl then a trim ring pushes in place, it is flat in the front with a hole to feed wire through. it seems pretty typical as I see them on everyhouse I drive by with this type of siding, I just don't know if they have a box underneath or not... sound like I need one and I can still put one in it will just be a little bit of a hassle. thanks, 1
when you put the two pieces together... that is what creates the box.
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What I think Tarheel is talking about is what's called a split box. Not the one to use for this job. It does not make a box to make connections.
Works fine for where sill cocks come through the wall, condinsate drains, flush mounted outlet boxes ect. but not for a light fixture.
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when you put the two pieces together... that is what creates the box.

Hope this works, this is what I have already installed. The trim is just to cover the edges of the cut vinyl, I don't really know how it makes a box. I may be making this more difficult then need be. sorry, 1

http://www.accentbuildingproducts.co...untblock-s.gif
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I don't really know how it makes a box. I may be making this more difficult then need be.
this is what I'm referring to (sort of)...
(mine both sides hav boxes that sleeve together)
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The one Tarheel showed will work and be better then the one you have on there now. The one I showed that sold it Lowes will have holes to attach the lamp directly to it.
The one you have on the house has no pretty way to mount the light to it.
That's the old style.
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The one Tarheel showed will work and be better then the one you have on there now.
In a pinch (like after the siding is up)...
2 or more of those flanges can be trimmed down so the box can be forced to slip into place. When no one is looking I've even seen screws driven through the back of them too. shh!
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You can cut a hole for a 1 1/2" deep box to contain the splice and provide mounting holes for the fixture.
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