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Old 04-07-2012, 09:12 PM   #1
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Recently purchased some LED lamps - Ecosmart from Home Depot, 40 watt replacements. Tried them in the fan light kit in my home office and was quite impressed. Installed one in my garage door opener to see how they hold up to vibration. The GDO is a 7 year old Craftsman (Liftmaster) with rolling code technology.

Soon discovered that if the light is on none of my remotes will work. If the light is off, the remotes work fine. The GDO works fine from the push button in the garage. Something in the LED lamp driver circuit is interfering with the wireless signal.

The only solution is that I went back to the 40 watt incandescent that I was using. I have tried CFLs in the GDO in the past and they do not stand up to the vibration.

Anybody heard of the problem with LEDs?

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Just buy a rough service bulb or a fan duty bulb and be done with it.

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I have CFL's in mine. Works fine.
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I ended up splicing in some romex to the wiring on the opener, in order to put in a light bulb fixture on a junction box, due to the cheap plastic bulb holder on our garage door opener finally failed. Plus side is, I was able to use a cfl with our garage door opener finally.
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Recently purchased some LED lamps - Ecosmart from Home Depot, 40 watt replacements. Tried them in the fan light kit in my home office and was quite impressed. Installed one in my garage door opener to see how they hold up to vibration. The GDO is a 7 year old Craftsman (Liftmaster) with rolling code technology.

Soon discovered that if the light is on none of my remotes will work. If the light is off, the remotes work fine. The GDO works fine from the push button in the garage. Something in the LED lamp driver circuit is interfering with the wireless signal.

The only solution is that I went back to the 40 watt incandescent that I was
using. I have tried CFLs in the GDO in the past and they do not stand up to
the vibration.

Anybody heard of the problem with LEDs?
RJ, I have noticed some LED lamps gave a caveat on the back of the packaging warning that they interfere with equipment operating between .45-30MHz Seems they do interact poorly with some frequencies; though I can't say I've heard specifically about conflict with GDOs.

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I have CFL's in mine. Works fine.
Some of the cheap edison sockets on some openers will not accept a cfl, due to the depth of the fixture, does not allow the cfl to fully seat against the hot contact.
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Have heard of that problem with CFLs,
But not LEDs.
Have you tried another brand of lamp ?
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Have heard of that problem with CFLs,
But not LEDs.
Have you tried another brand of lamp ?
Have not tried another brand of lamp. These Ecosmarts have been the first ones at $10 each that have been cheap enough for me to want to buy.

I like Greg's idea of wiring up a remote bulb holder. That will help with the CFL vibration issue and may get a LED far enough away from the unit to use a LED
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This might explain why:

http://www.emfields.org/lighting/comparison-table.asp


It seems the regulator circuit for the lamps can emit interference at higher frequencies. The opener has a 315MHz radio receiver.

So the bulb might have a interference emission in the 315MHz band or has a lower frequency interference with bothers some of the receiver intermediate circuits (intermediate frequency circuit of the receiver).

A simple fix might be just to get separation between the bulb and the units via a cord and remote bulb holder. That is not guaranteed because the cord might act like an antenna and radiate the interference from the bulb even more. Its simple thing to try though if LED is important to you.
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I have CFL's in mine. Works fine.
+1 I have the same in mine and it's a really old unit that makes a lot of noise.
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Greg,

Using your idea: I used a socket adapter to extend the ligh socket up to the ceiling and installed a keyless in plastic box.


Photo shows the LED. It still causes the remotes to fail, not every time but often enough to be irritating. I am going to use a CFL instead.

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Some of the cheap edison sockets on some openers will not accept a cfl, due to the depth of the fixture, does not allow the cfl to fully seat against the hot contact.
I have used small socket extensions like these in mine.

http://www.homedepot.com/Lighting-Fa...&storeId=10051
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You could try using one of these http://www.theenergydetective.com/in...d-noise-filter http://www.theenergydetective.com/pl...e-noise-filter and see if that stops the interference.
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Hi!

I also had a problem after installing LED lights around the house with my remote controls. Fortunately, I found a solution called GoGogate that's working fine for me.

I even can open and close the garage door from anywhere with my iPhone, receive alerts and video monitor the door.
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I had this GDO interefrence issue with early-generation LED bulbs (regardless of brand); however more recent LED bulbs are woirking great - no problems at all. I've recently tried both Philips and CREE bulbs (just the basic ones available at HD), and both work as-advertised. I imagine the cheaper (non-Philips or CREE brand) LED bulbs avilable out there still suffer from potential interference issues, but try out a Philips or CREE up there - I bet it'll work.

I'm currently using a CREE bulb in my GDO, since I like that rubber coating those bulbs have on them - it gives me a little peace-of-mind up there in the rattle-y ol' GDO having the full instant-on is awesome, especially in winter - the CFL I had up there previously was little more than a night-light when the temps dropped!

Cheers, Chris

ETA: Just realized this is an old thread... Hope my post here may still add value for future searches though...


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