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Old 12-19-2012, 10:52 PM   #1
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So I installed one LED light in the middle of my bedroom ceiling wall. No problem. It only had three wires. (Black, White, and Copper). Very quick and easy installation.

Now I took out the old ball light in my closet (Which is next to bathroom. Two closest on side, then door leading to bathroom. It's more like a little hallway to be exact.).

Once I took it out I noticed that it was probably going to give me a **** ton of trouble as there where 3 sets of 3 wires (Black, White, and Copper) for a total of nine wires. So after seeing that I decided the best thing for me to do was label all the wires so I don't have to mess around with it. And I did so.

Now before I put the LED in, I connected all the wires the way they where and connected the two remaining wires that would be connected to the lamp, to each other to see if it would complete a circuit.

Just my luck, the breaker pops back down everytime I flip the switch with the old combination.



Here's some info on each outlet.

1. This one is controlled by the switch. Somehow this wirebunch is also connected to the bedroom LED I installed earlier. I am guessing there are connected together. The bedroom LED does not work if this switch doesn't have a circuit. When I connect this one to the power wirebunch (B to B, W to W) it shuts the breaker down when flipped on. This one is currently has both black and white wires cut off (insulated).

2. I assume this is the power outlet. Without this one neither of the other two do anything. When connected to the bathroom wirebunch. All the outlets and lights work except for the bedroom ceiling LED. When connected to the switch directly it short circuits (i guess thats what its called?) and flips the breaker.

3. Bathroom wirebunch. Controls all the lights in the bathroom. When not connected to power the bathroom is left powerless.

Currently I have the Bathroom wires connect to the power, and the switch isolated. In order for me to have light in the bathroom until I figure out what to do. The problem is that without the other wires connected to the switch, the ceiling light in my bedroom and closet don't work!

Help please!

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Old 12-20-2012, 03:58 AM   #2
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Remove the new light and put the wires back exactily
the way they were before.
What happens now ?

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So I installed one LED light in the middle of my bedroom ceiling wall. No problem. It only had three wires. (Black, White, and Copper). Very quick and easy installation.

Now I took out the old ball light in my closet (Which is next to bathroom. Two closest on side, then door leading to bathroom. It's more like a little hallway to be exact.).

Once I took it out I noticed that it was probably going to give me a **** ton of trouble as there where 3 sets of 3 wires (Black, White, and Copper) for a total of nine wires. So after seeing that I decided the best thing for me to do was label all the wires so I don't have to mess around with it. And I did so.

Now before I put the LED in, I connected all the wires the way they where and connected the two remaining wires that would be connected to the lamp, to each other to see if it would complete a circuit.

Just my luck, the breaker pops back down everytime I flip the switch with the old combination.



Here's some info on each outlet.

1. This one is controlled by the switch. Somehow this wirebunch is also connected to the bedroom LED I installed earlier. I am guessing there are connected together. The bedroom LED does not work if this switch doesn't have a circuit. When I connect this one to the power wirebunch (B to B, W to W) it shuts the breaker down when flipped on. This one is currently has both black and white wires cut off (insulated).

2. I assume this is the power outlet. Without this one neither of the other two do anything. When connected to the bathroom wirebunch. All the outlets and lights work except for the bedroom ceiling LED. When connected to the switch directly it short circuits (i guess thats what its called?) and flips the breaker.

3. Bathroom wirebunch. Controls all the lights in the bathroom. When not connected to power the bathroom is left powerless.

Currently I have the Bathroom wires connect to the power, and the switch isolated. In order for me to have light in the bathroom until I figure out what to do. The problem is that without the other wires connected to the switch, the ceiling light in my bedroom and closet don't work!

Help please!
When you did this,(in red above) you created a dead short when using the switch.
Tie the wires back the way you had them, and tie in the light to the remaining two wires.
Next time just buy an LED light bulb, easier to change the bulb than fixture.
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When changing out a fixture the best thing is just to remove the fixture wires from a splice. There is no need to undo a splice not connected to the fixture.

If the switch only has a black and a white on the switch terminals you have a switch loop. You will need to find the cable that goes to the switch in the ceiling box. The white from that cable will get spliced to the blacks. The black from that cable will splice to the fixture black.
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Jim, that is the one thing that I could never understand. You get the new fixture, unhook the old, hook up the new. If you want to make sure what went where, Pencil & paper.
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