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Hobb3s 04-02-2011 10:32 PM

Know where I can find or what happened to?
 
Hello,
I have a Taylor Electric main Panel in my home, I'm looking for replacement breakers for it so that I don't have to spend thousands to replace the panel.
Can anyone tell me where I could locate obsolete brands of breakers? Or who bought Taylor electric, so I could find out if they have old stock?
Or any other suggestion/make that would fit a Taylor panel?
TIA.
Greg.

Jupe Blue 04-02-2011 11:01 PM

Can you post a picture of the interior of your panel? Or try Oregon Breakers (http://www.oregonbreakers.com/) for help. Or do a search for a PEARL affiliated used equipment dealer in your area.

PEARL is an organization of companies that deal in new, surplus and previously used electrical equipment. Certified PEARL Members are required to adhere to certain standards and must meet certain qualifications.

Hobb3s 04-02-2011 11:42 PM

Here are some pics of the panel.
http://i.imgur.com/hSETDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mb9ail.jpg

Full Sized
Outside of Panel
Inside of Panel

Thanks!

Hobb3s 04-03-2011 12:32 AM

Some more details. I'm trying to get additional room to add a dishwasher and some more circuits for a kitchen renovation. I've had 5 electricians come in and take a look and 4 out of 5 said I would have to replace everything, get my meter moved outside.. the electric company would then possibly relocate it at my cost and their whim.. basically 3000-4000$ for the job. One said he could maybe do a sub panel, but I didn't get a confident feeling from him. So my understanding from them was that Taylor Electric is out of business, so they couldn't get a breaker to run a sub panel. I thought if I could find the breaker independently I could then arrange for one of them to install a sub panel and save myself 3000+$.
I just however learned about feed through lugs... and I appears that I have those. Is it acceptable to run a sub panel off of the feed through lugs instead of a breaker in the main panel? ... could I conceivably run a 60amp sub panel off of there?

kbsparky 04-03-2011 12:49 AM

You already have sub-boxes tapped off the mains feeding your dryer and A/C units.

Its time to rip all that old junk out, and install a single box to handle all your stuff. :whistling2:

Hobb3s 04-03-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbsparky (Post 622135)
You already have sub-boxes tapped off the mains feeding your dryer and A/C units.

Its time to rip all that old junk out, and install a single box to handle all your stuff. :whistling2:

As nice as that would be. I can't afford $4000+ to 'clean it up'

gregzoll 04-03-2011 08:51 AM

Who gave you the $4000 price? Is that just one bid, or from multiple bids? It is not going to take $4k.

vsheetz 04-03-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbsparky (Post 622135)
You already have sub-boxes tapped off the mains feeding your dryer and A/C units.

Its time to rip all that old junk out, and install a single box to handle all your stuff. :whistling2:


Would replacing one or both of these sub-boxes with one of larger capacity be an option?

joed 04-03-2011 10:44 AM

Unless there is something very strange about your setup a 200 amp panel should only be in the $2000-$2500 range.

Hobb3s 04-03-2011 03:01 PM

The reason I've had several quotes up in the 4g's range is because the main power comes first into my 100 amp fuse, then to the hydro meter which is inside. then to the other half of my panel. To replaced the entire panel I need to have hydro in to do a site survey, turn off the power at the pole. All the electricians have said that they would require me to move the hydro meter outside and rerun inside (my cost) and move the pole to a new location because of new code (causing extra roofing costs). If I went 200 amp, i would have to pay the extra for the new lines to to pole. Have the electrical and power authority come in and inspect it all, then get the new panel put in and replace all the old stuff... needless to say, a big job with lots of co-ordination between various people. That's why the quote is so high.

I was thinking I could take the two sub panels for the dryer and the air conditioner off, and put in a new sub panel off the main feed with breakers for them and additional 15 amp breakers for more circuits in the kitchen... a little clean up and some expansion.

gregzoll 04-03-2011 03:36 PM

Still may not pass Canada code, since you already stated that new service would have to be ran. Check with the Holmes foundation to see if they can help you out, if you are unable to afford the upgrade.

Wildie 04-03-2011 04:26 PM

Taylor Electric was located in London, ON. and has been out of business for many years.

The major cost for you is to relocate the meter outside. As soon as a permit is pulled to change the panel, ESA will demand that it would be installed outside.
My area electrical distributor now requires that meters would be installed in 200 amp bases, even for 100 amp services.

Not being familiar with your outside setup, its difficult to make any suggestions, but the stack may need to be replaced along with new service conductors.

Have you had an ESA inspector have a look at what you have, and what will be required to bring it up to standards?

The writing is on the wall and now would be a good time to get rid of obsolete equipment.

There may be grants available to assist you with the cost of the upgrade and if so, it won't be so financially painful.

Brisby 07-01-2011 12:37 AM

Late response
 
Hey, know I'm a little late in replying but I had the same problem and needed a breaker. Relay Electrical out of Dorchester ontario still has stock in breakers for the Taylor Electric. I just went there today and got 2 15a single poles, but they had lots of other ones. Don't know if it helps, but thought I'd post in case anyone else still needs them

brric 07-01-2011 07:56 AM

As others have implied, what help would additional breakers be when there is no more space in the panel.

Man, who digs up these old posts.

Brisby 07-01-2011 08:14 AM

For him obviously no help whatsoever unless as he mentioned he were to put in a larger breaker and a pony panel or something. My reason for replying was that when I went looking for breakers for a taylor electric panel - just googling taylor electric breakers - this is one of the first things that came up. Thus if anyone else was to do the same thing, they'd likely be directed to this post, so I thought posting a potential solution here could be helpful to anyone in that situation. Just cause the person who originally posted the question may have found an alternative solution doesn't mean they're the only one trying to find the breakers. if people are searching for the breakers and google's pointing them here, then they can find that information, so the age of the post becomes completely irrelevant. I assure you there was no "digging" involved, I was simply trying to help other people who may be in the same position as I was.


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