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Old 11-13-2012, 02:23 AM   #1
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Kitchen recessed lighting with no attic access?


Is there a easy way to install 1 recessed light where this old standard light is?
I have no access to the attic and it has that cotton ball type insulation all over in the ceiling.

I'm replacing the lights in the kitchen and dining room area with really nice lights, but they don't make any nice looking small lights that would look good above the sink, so I want to install 1 can light because I think it would look really good for the location and it's all that is needed for this area of the kitchen anyway.
I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to recessed lights..
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Is there a easy way to install 1 recessed light where this old standard light is?
I have no access to the attic and it has that pink cotton ball type insulation all over in the ceiling.

I'm replacing the lights in the kitchen and dining room area with really nice lights, but they don't make any nice looking small lights that would look good above the sink, so I want to install 1 can light because I think it would look really good for the location and it's all that is needed for this area of the kitchen anyway.
I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to recessed lights..

This is the light I wanted to install;
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UKIHjIc8B8E
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If you have no attic access, how do you know what type of insulation is up there?

That light appears to be mounted on a soffitt. As long as the wires are long enough, you should be able to install a recessed can light. The hardest part will be removing the electrical box the existing light is attached to.

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You will need to use an IC rated fixture and possibly an air-tight depending on your local energy codes.

Check to see if you have framing in the way of the housing or that you have clearance to the roof for the depth of the housing.
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You will need to use an IC rated fixture and possibly an air-tight depending on your local energy codes.

Check to see if you have framing in the way of the housing or that you have clearance to the roof for the depth of the housing.
Ahh ok thank you

If I have no framing in the way and I have clearance, is it a easy install? There is probably some kind of plastic box at the hole, does it come out easy from inside the house?

I think this is what I need here listed below and it looks like my only option for air tight since I'm not sure what my energy codes are.

Is this all I need?
http://www.lowes.com/pd_81011-337-H7...1#BVRRWidgetID

http://www.lowes.com/pd_355953-38269...roduct_price|0

easy as this? looks pretty easy

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You might want to consider this LED disk light. It will mount to a 4" round fixture J box.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UKJMdGd5G-I


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You might want to consider this LED disk light. It will mount to a 4" round fixture J box.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UKJMdGd5G-I


That looks interesting. So this just installs like a normal ceiling light? Just remove the old light and mount this in its place?
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You would remove the light you have now, remove the box of there is one, cut out the hole with a hole saw and install one of these.
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Yep....like Joe said.

Make sure you confirm what is above that light. If there is insulation...make sure you use an IC (Insulation Contact) rated box .

And since I've done it....a few pointers....(learned the hard way)

You will most likely have to cut the hole bigger (final size) first so that you can remove the old box. If you have issues getting the old box out, don't be afraid to just cut out a big square of drywall and patch it up when done. Get the wife to help....have her hold the shop vac under the saw as you cut....it cuts down on the mess quite a bit.

If you do get the old box out....chances are your wires are going to be pretty short....it's going to take some 'work' to get the wires into your new box (that retangular box on the side of the light). Once you get those wires into the new box and clamped down and wire nutted....it's easy to push it up into the new hole.

As a side note.....good decision on getting rid of the old light....a recessed can will look much better.
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You would remove the light you have now, remove the box of there is one, cut out the hole with a hole saw and install one of these.
http://www.infiniteconstruction.com/...ht-300x300.jpg
No need to remove the box. It will mount to a standard 4" octagon.

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