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SimpleJack 11-13-2012 03:23 AM

Kitchen recessed lighting with no attic access?
 
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Is there a easy way to install 1 recessed light where this old standard light is?
I have no access to the attic and it has that cotton ball type insulation all over in the ceiling.

I'm replacing the lights in the kitchen and dining room area with really nice lights, but they don't make any nice looking small lights that would look good above the sink, so I want to install 1 can light because I think it would look really good for the location and it's all that is needed for this area of the kitchen anyway.
I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to recessed lights..

SimpleJack 11-13-2012 03:26 AM

is there a easy way to install 1 recessed light
 
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Is there a easy way to install 1 recessed light where this old standard light is?
I have no access to the attic and it has that pink cotton ball type insulation all over in the ceiling.

I'm replacing the lights in the kitchen and dining room area with really nice lights, but they don't make any nice looking small lights that would look good above the sink, so I want to install 1 can light because I think it would look really good for the location and it's all that is needed for this area of the kitchen anyway.
I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to recessed lights..

This is the light I wanted to install;
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UKIHjIc8B8E

md2lgyk 11-13-2012 07:53 AM

If you have no attic access, how do you know what type of insulation is up there?

That light appears to be mounted on a soffitt. As long as the wires are long enough, you should be able to install a recessed can light. The hardest part will be removing the electrical box the existing light is attached to.

Jim Port 11-13-2012 07:56 AM

You will need to use an IC rated fixture and possibly an air-tight depending on your local energy codes.

Check to see if you have framing in the way of the housing or that you have clearance to the roof for the depth of the housing.

SimpleJack 11-13-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 1051087)
You will need to use an IC rated fixture and possibly an air-tight depending on your local energy codes.

Check to see if you have framing in the way of the housing or that you have clearance to the roof for the depth of the housing.

Ahh ok thank you :)

If I have no framing in the way and I have clearance, is it a easy install? There is probably some kind of plastic box at the hole, does it come out easy from inside the house?

I think this is what I need here listed below and it looks like my only option for air tight since I'm not sure what my energy codes are.

Is this all I need?
http://www.lowes.com/pd_81011-337-H7...1#BVRRWidgetID

http://www.lowes.com/pd_355953-38269...roduct_price|0

easy as this? looks pretty easy :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDbiggOSosQ

rjniles 11-13-2012 08:41 AM

You might want to consider this LED disk light. It will mount to a 4" round fixture J box.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UKJMdGd5G-I


http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...4ef948_300.jpg

SimpleJack 11-13-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rjniles (Post 1051111)
You might want to consider this LED disk light. It will mount to a 4" round fixture J box.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UKJMdGd5G-I


http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...4ef948_300.jpg

That looks interesting. So this just installs like a normal ceiling light? Just remove the old light and mount this in its place?

joecaption 11-13-2012 10:46 AM

You would remove the light you have now, remove the box of there is one, cut out the hole with a hole saw and install one of these.
http://www.infiniteconstruction.com/...ht-300x300.jpg

ddawg16 11-13-2012 11:09 AM

Yep....like Joe said.

Make sure you confirm what is above that light. If there is insulation...make sure you use an IC (Insulation Contact) rated box .

And since I've done it....a few pointers....(learned the hard way)

You will most likely have to cut the hole bigger (final size) first so that you can remove the old box. If you have issues getting the old box out, don't be afraid to just cut out a big square of drywall and patch it up when done. Get the wife to help....have her hold the shop vac under the saw as you cut....it cuts down on the mess quite a bit.

If you do get the old box out....chances are your wires are going to be pretty short....it's going to take some 'work' to get the wires into your new box (that retangular box on the side of the light). Once you get those wires into the new box and clamped down and wire nutted....it's easy to push it up into the new hole.

As a side note.....good decision on getting rid of the old light....a recessed can will look much better.

beenthere 11-13-2012 12:03 PM

Threads merged.

k_buz 11-13-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1051184)
You would remove the light you have now, remove the box of there is one, cut out the hole with a hole saw and install one of these.
http://www.infiniteconstruction.com/...ht-300x300.jpg

No need to remove the box. It will mount to a standard 4" octagon.


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