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Old 12-14-2011, 07:06 PM   #1
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Updating our galley kitchen. One side is shorter than the other by 2' to enclose HVAC ducting. This short wall has no outlets on it. Counter tops have outlets on both sides of kitchen.

Currently outlets for counter tops are wired in with other rooms. I'm changing them to be on their own 20A circuits. One circuit for each side of the kitchen.

Question. Assuming the above change is correct do I need to put an outlet on the 2' wall?

And if I have to have such an outlet or just decide to put one on this wall, can it be shared with the counter top outlets on that side? If not can it be shared with other outlets in the next room? Or must it have a dedicated breaker?

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Old 12-14-2011, 07:13 PM   #2
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Receptacles in the kitchen and dining room can be on the 20 amp small appliance circuits.

Any countertop 12" or wider requires a receptacle. Longer countertops reire that no space be more than 2' from a receptacle.

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They must be 20 amp GFI protected and are suppot to be no more then 4' apart, non within reach of the sink.
And yes it would be best if all of them were on the same circut.
The ref. and micro wave should be on there on circut and never have a ref. pluged into a GFI.
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The receptacles can be within reach of the sink under the NEC.
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Kitchen is short enough that no counter top is longer than 3'.

The side of the kitchen in question has in order:
36" counter top with outlet.
30" range space
36" counter top with outlet.
Plenum space with 23.5" wall after drywall put in place.

The counter top outlets will be on a dedicated circuit.

Do I need an outlet on this short wall? There is none now. And if so can it be on the same circuit as the counter top outlets.

I think I'm fine on other side of kitchen.
24" counter top with outlet.
24" sink w/disposal.
24" counter top with outlet over dishwasher space.
Fridge space.
These outlets will be on dedicated circuit. Ditto Dishwasher, disposal, and fridge.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:31 PM   #6
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Oh, yeah. Replacing outlets with GFIC.
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You only need one GFI if all the effected outlets are on the same circut.
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and never have a ref. pluged into a GFI.
Would you like to explain why you feel this way? Refrigerators should have no issue being on a GFI protected circuit. They are required to be GFI protected in a commercial kitchen.
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Receptacles in the kitchen and dining room can be on the 20 amp small appliance circuits.
Hmm. Galley opens on one end to dining room. Other end to what we call breakfast room. Fancy vs. day to day eating. Does this breakfast room count as a "dining" room?
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And to ask again. Does my 23.5 inch wall require an outlet per latest national codes?

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