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Old 11-02-2010, 06:23 PM   #16
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Thanks, Joed, so in conclusion, to do work safely on that circuit and have "power" off, do I need to have BOTH breakers identified/shut off or just one of them?
The simple answer is BOTH breakers need to be off.
The complicated answer is there should not be two breakers required to turn off a circuit. The cross connection between the circuits should be found and removed so that only one breaker is required to turn off the circuit.

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The simple answer is BOTH breakers need to be off.
The complicated answer is there should not be two breakers required to turn off a circuit. The cross connection between the circuits should be found and removed so that only one breaker is required to turn off the circuit.

The tie should not be removed, if it is connected to a 3 wire cable red/blk/wht. The 2 circuits are sharing the same neutral. If the 2 circuits are not turned off together it is possible to get a shock from the neutral if you were to open the joints on the neutral and you only had one of the circuits off.
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The tie should not be removed, if it is connected to a 3 wire cable red/blk/wht. The 2 circuits are sharing the same neutral. If the 2 circuits are not turned off together it is possible to get a shock from the neutral if you were to open the joints on the neutral and you only had one of the circuits off.
I think you didn't read the thread. It appears the OP has two circuits tied together somewhere in the field so he cannot turn off the lights he is dealing with when turning off breakers individually. It will require 2 breakers being off to kill the power to the lights.


Since they are on the same leg, they are not going to be next to each other so tying the handles together isn't going to happen.
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I did misread the thread, I don't think he has eliminated the possibility of it being on a 2p breaker though. These lights are in the kitchen it is quite possible they are feeding the lights from a kitchen split rec. either way my advice still stands about removing a breaker tie.
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I did misread the thread, I don't think he has eliminated the possibility of it being on a 2p breaker though. These lights are in the kitchen it is quite possible they are feeding the lights from a kitchen split rec. either way my advice still stands about removing a breaker tie.
I'm not sure he has either but without feedback, we all tend to wander and try to throw advice at them hoping something will stick.

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