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vsheetz 01-28-2009 04:21 AM

Kitchen Lighting Plan - Plz Comment
 
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  • Recessed lighting x6 as depicted - is this too many?
  • Two or three pendants over the island - it's 7' long?
  • Not shown are lights under the upper cabinets
  • Not shown is a pendant or other light over the sink
thx!
Vince

Bob Mariani 01-28-2009 06:10 AM

move the one recessed can to the edge of the stove and the opposite side to the same location. Now add two more slightly off the edges of the sink. You need two more recessed cans. Center these about 6" off the counter edge. Add switches for the undercabinet lights dividing them into two halves. Keep all lights on a dimmer.

Just Bill 01-28-2009 07:04 AM

If incandescent, too much power, and the light is in the wrong place. Countertop workspace is better lit from under the cabinets, to many shadows from overhead light.

vsheetz 01-28-2009 01:27 PM

Yes, there will be under cabinet lighting - that's where I am conerned I have too much light in the ceiling.

Yes, all will be on dimmers.

Two pendants or three over the island?

Keep the comments coming!

thx!!
Vince

theatretch85 01-28-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vsheetz (Post 220700)
Yes, there will be under cabinet lighting - that's where I am conerned I have too much light in the ceiling.

Yes, all will be on dimmers.

Two pendants or three over the island?

Keep the comments coming!

thx!!
Vince

I'm no expert by any means, but personally I would think 2 pendants would provide more than enough light for a 7' island! Especially if there are multiple bulbs in the fixtures.

220/221 01-28-2009 06:07 PM

6" cans?

I'd keep the counter top cans at 20 to 24 inches off the wall so the light comes directly down to the work space,m not from behind your head. Be aware of your upper cabinet doors or crown moulding. Those Ikea cabinet doors are really really tight to the ceiling and can scrape the recessed trims. Crown (if used) also sticks out a couple inches.

I'd put a can over the sink.

I wouldn't put a can over the refer.

I wouldn't put cans in the center. Put them where you need light.

I'd put a can over the range.

2 or 3 pendants over the island depends on the physical size of them.
You might want to consider one can in the center (switched with the other cans) and two pendants (switched seperately) for decorative lighting.

vsheetz 01-28-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 220903)
6" cans?

I'd keep the counter top cans at 20 to 24 inches off the wall so the light comes directly down to the work space,m not from behind your head. Be aware of your upper cabinet doors or crown moulding. Those Ikea cabinet doors are really really tight to the ceiling and can scrape the recessed trims. Crown (if used) also sticks out a couple inches.

Good stuff - I had not thought about cabinet door clearance, there is a crown so probably not an issue in this case.

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 220903)
I'd put a can over the sink.

There us a surface mount light going over the sink - but a can may be a good consideration.

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 220903)
I wouldn't put a can over the refer..

Yeah, I did not like one there - but was concerned of the light not being balanced, created a darker area there. Is this a valid concern?

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 220903)
I wouldn't put cans in the center. Put them where you need light.

How about one in the center - I am conerned of not enough light?

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 220903)
I'd put a can over the range.

There is a light in the microware/hood combo - still need another one there?

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 220903)
2 or 3 pendants over the island depends on the physical size of them.
You might want to consider one can in the center (switched with the other cans) and two pendants (switched seperately) for decorative lighting.

I like the idea of the can and two pendants - thx!

More comments welcomed - you guys are a wealth of information!

thx!
Vince

Scuba_Dave 01-29-2009 09:23 AM

Keep in mind that you can usually put a lower wattage bulb in a fixture. It's a bit harder to go back & add another can

I used 4" cans in my kitchen, much less obtrusive. My kitchen is smaller, but I've seen some big kitchens that did not look good. I've seen kitchens with 6" cans every 2' along the perimeter & some in the middle - hated the look. Too big, too busy & looked messy

220/221 01-29-2009 11:30 AM

If you use 4" cans you will need several more as the light will only spread about half as far.

Upper cabinets are 12" deep. Add your crown (4"?) and it comes to 16". If you center the cans @ 20" and you will be clear and the center of the light will be about 4" in from the front of the ctop. Keep in mind that the lights will splash the upper cabinets for added effect. Some people don't like this look, most people do.

Some people like the balanced look with all cans relating to the others in an even pattern (ambient light). It is effective but offers no drama. I am more concerned with the look of the lighting than the placement of the fixtures. In the kitchen you want light where you work. You don't need to highlight the floor space.

Micro/hood lights, in my personal experience, suck. I have made that mistake before.

Scuba_Dave 01-29-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 220/221 (Post 220903)
2 or 3 pendants over the island depends on the physical size of them. You might want to consider one can in the center (switched with the other cans) and two pendants (switched separately) for decorative lighting.

That's a great idea. I will also have a 7-8' peninsula & I was installing (3) 4" cans. I'll connect one to the existing cans, then have the other 2 on another switch for more light when needed

MY 4" cans are 30" apart on one side of the kitchen & 3' apart on the other side. I do have a fan in the middle with a light - one 13w Daylight CFL. This adds great light & some nice color

220/221 01-29-2009 12:14 PM

Oh yeah....a fan.:thumbup:

I'd prewire (3 wire) for a fan/light, lined up on the end of the right hand cabinets/pantry door and centered the other way.


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