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Old 07-14-2014, 08:12 AM   #1
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Eventually I want to replace formica cabinets with wood cabinets.

A problem I'm stalled on is the lighting.

The original fluorescent lights have an outdated plastic grill cover which I dislike. The lights need repaired but I'm not spending one penny on them.

I was considering can lights then having someone repair the drywall, in the narrow area above cabinets.

I'm not crazy about the soffit area above cabinets but if that were removed then theres the issue of matching new popcorn ceiling to existing. It it were just the kitchen I wouldnt be as concerned but the ceiling extendes down a hall ,in one direction, and in the other direction it extends into the Living room and I don't want that big of a project.

Any ideas for updating the lights?

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Just remove the popcorn from the soffit area. Installing the recessed may require patching in the ceiling.

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Remove the soffit and install full height cabinets. Your wife will love the additional storage.

After you gut the kitchen, hire someone to respray the popcorn on the patched ceiling. After you have the soffit out it will be easy to correct the electrical issues you will find and install new lighting.
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If I understood you correctly, you would like to be able to match the existing popcorn to the undeside/top of the siffits when they are removed.

Popcorn is pretty eassy to match... comes in a couple of different sizes, but pretty easy to sparay on.

(Don't know your area/preferences, but around here most people are looking for any excuse to get rid of popcorn.)

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Trust me, I thoroughly dislike popcorn, but don't have the $$ to deal with removing it.

The white underside of the soffit is not popcorn. It's orange peel.

Now a big question is.........are these cabinets really not full size? How could I live here and not notice that? : Maybe the soffit sticking out affected my perception. Can't wait to go to HD tomorrow and measure upper cabinet heights.

Ok, so if I had that entire soffit removed and got a pro to patch the popcorn, on the ceiling where it would missing after soffit was removed (length of cabinets X 12") would the color match at least fairly well? Even tho the house is 30 yo?

I'm guessing with my big attic it wouldn't be hard to drop can lights in? I don't have any lights now, except for one on a fan in the middle of the room, so anything will be better than what I have.

Another question. Do can lights come in high wattage? There's one over the sink that has a 60 w bulb and it's pretty worthless. What's the standard for kitchens? (I plan to have under cabinet lighting also.)

Appreciate the advice.

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Pics would help. Sometimes soffits hide pipes and ductwork.
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Its the soffit in my first post where I hung plates.

This is a one story house and theres no other plumbing on this side so I'm confident nothing is behind the soffit, but I'm glad of the warning.

The AC vent is in the middle of the room and comes from the opposite direction.
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Standard wall cabinets usually are made in 30, 36 and 42 inch heights. With 8 foot ceilings you can install 42 inch cabinets to the ceiling.

For lighting consider LED disk lights.
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Ran out to kitchen and measured. Existing cabinets are 29"

OK, no idea what LED disk lights are, but will research it. Altho when I hear the words LED I wonder if that will be a true color. Lol, don't want my food looking weird.
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Are you married ?
Then your asking the wrong people !
Ask your wife what lights she would like,
The kitchen in the womens domain
If you want to stay in her good books
Consult with her !


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It's Ms Startingover.
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Ran out to kitchen and measured. Existing cabinets are 29"

OK, no idea what LED disk lights are, but will research it. Altho when I hear the words LED I wonder if that will be a true color. Lol, don't want my food looking weird.

Mounts on a 4" ceiling J Box or a recessed can(I used the 4" J-Box)

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Commercial-Electric-Recessed-White-Light/dp/B00B3XIIMK[/ame]

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Is there a difference in kitchen lights which would give a true color?

And, which would be the brightest?

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Is there a difference in kitchen lights which would give a true color?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature

Kelvin temperature ratings in the 2700-3000 range are considered soft white. High temperatures get more harsh.

The lights I referenced are what I used and give a very nice warm light. I have 5 of them in my kitchen and are more than adequate. I also have a 4" version over the sink. Much better than the 4 tube T8 florescent they replaced.

Look at my kitchen album under my public profile for pictures.

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