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ryan50hrl 07-19-2012 02:09 PM

Just got started
 
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Ok guys, I just got started putting in my new sub panel, anyone see anything wrong yet?

Jim Port 07-19-2012 02:21 PM

You only need the sheath to extend 1/4" into the box.

The white on the two pole breaker needs to be re-identified as a hot.

I also would have routed the cable on the right down the right side gutter.

ryan50hrl 07-19-2012 02:31 PM

Thanks Jim question on the sheath, do I need to pull those back out and cut them back further or should I just do it on the remaining ones, I guess the question is is it a code violation or just an ugly violation

ddawg16 07-19-2012 02:38 PM

I don't see a main breaker....I believe your limit is 6 breakers.

ryan50hrl 07-19-2012 02:45 PM

Oh? I'm confused as to why there would be subpanel sold with Eight spots, 16 circuits labeled on it..... I was planning on using all eight spots is that a problem?

ddawg16 07-19-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan50hrl (Post 969542)
Oh? I'm confused as to why there would be subpanel sold with Eight spots, 16 circuits labeled on it..... I was planning on using all eight spots is that a problem?

Without a main disconnect....yea.....it will be a problem....I got dinged by my inspector on the sub-panel in my garage. I had 7 breakers. He said "Disconnect one".....then on the way out the door he said softly "You can reconnect it later if you want.".

The basic intent of the rule is that if you have to shut everything off quickly, anything more than 6 breakers may take too long.

Hopefully one of the experts will chime in...but I believe you can put in a larger breaker and backfeed it. That would be your main breaker .

ryan50hrl 07-19-2012 02:58 PM

I was under the understanding that as long as this was in the same structure, which it's in the basement next to the main panel about 20 feet away that it was okay. But that if it was in the garage then it had to have a main breaker

rjniles 07-19-2012 03:02 PM

You only need a main disconnect if the sub is in a remote building. If in same building as main panel it is not required.

Jim Port 07-19-2012 03:14 PM

It makes it harder to work with the conductors still in the sheath. The code does require at least 6" of free conductor in a box.

ryan50hrl 07-19-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 969567)
It makes it harder to work with the conductors still in the sheath. The code does require at least 6" of free conductor in a box.


I did notice that........i'll measure more carefully next time......

ryan50hrl 07-19-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 969534)
The white on the two pole breaker needs to be re-identified as a hot.


Any particular way it needs to be done to meet the requirement?

jbfan 07-19-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan50hrl (Post 969575)
Any particular way it needs to be done to meet the requirement?

A black or red sharpie or piece of tape or some black/red paint.

ryan50hrl 07-19-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 969534)

I also would have routed the cable on the right down the right side gutter.


Jim,

I'm assuming your talking about this wire to the circled location?

mpoulton 07-19-2012 04:27 PM

The 6-disconnect rule applies only to services. So unless this panel serves a separate structure, you can have as many breakers as you want in there.

Jim Port 07-19-2012 04:30 PM

Yes to the red circle.

I would have also routed the white and bares the shortest route across the top of the panel.


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