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fw2007 03-28-2008 05:42 PM

Junction Question?
 
Hi;
Does code allow me to run the following configuration:

Breaker > Outlet 1 + Pigtail in outlet box > outlet 2 + Pigtail in outlet box > Junction Box > Outlet 3, Outlet 4 (both from junction box)

For some reason, I suspect this is not allowed, but going to junction box first, then daisy-chain outlets is OK.

I can do either way, might end up with a junction box in a closet (which I don't like, but is probably OK as long as it's accessible)

Thanks for your input

FW

CowboyAndy 03-28-2008 06:26 PM

It is perfectly acceptable as long as the junction box is TOTALLY ACCESSABLE.

fw2007 03-28-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowboyAndy (Post 111744)
It is perfectly acceptable as long as the junction box is TOTALLY ACCESSABLE.

By totally accessible, I assume that means in a closet, etc as long as there is no permanent fixture/structure blocking access to it.

FW

joed 03-28-2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fw2007 (Post 111755)
By totally accessible, I assume that means in a closet, etc as long as there is no permanent fixture/structure blocking access to it.

FW

Totally accessible means you can open it without smashing drywall or demolishing something to get to it.

fw2007 03-28-2008 10:20 PM

OK. So, you're saying that my feed can come first into an outlet box, have a pigtail with wires coming off for the outlet,. and continue on to a regular (4" square) junction box?

I think that the reasoning behind my question concerning the order of boxes comes from when we used to use the receptacle itself to make a daisy-chain splice.
While I understand this method is still allowed, I don't use it. I prefer to splice with wirenuts in the outlet box, and have only the two wires + ground going to the receptacle.

FW

jbfan 03-28-2008 10:33 PM

Why wouldn't you continue from outlet to outlet without the jbox?

fw2007 03-29-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbfan (Post 111799)
Why wouldn't you continue from outlet to outlet without the jbox?

You're right. It's kind of silly. I was just thinking that having a J-box in the attic would save 9' of wire for the outlets. Rethinking the concept, I will just go from outlet to outlet.
If I put a J-box in the attic, it needs to be on a main wall or a roof rafter, and that's going to add length to the wire run anyway.

FW

joed 03-29-2008 10:56 AM

Every point of connecton is a potential point of failure. The less joints the better. I prefer to make the connections on the receptacles. In Canada we count wire nuts in box fill.

Knucklez 03-29-2008 11:14 AM

only time i run to a junction box before distro is when pulling a main trunk a long long distance. for example, from panel in basement to attic is one wire and terminated in a junction box in attic. from this box to room just below attic is then distrobuted.

keep in mind that this attic junction must have >= 1meter space above box and be accessible.

i do this just incase there is a problem with the wiring in the room in the future... then i can just remove the one wire and don't have to remove the trunk which is a pain.

but.. every junction box = possible failure point as previous poster said. so you must weigh your options carefully.

Knucklez

fw2007 03-31-2008 11:56 AM

Thanks for the heads up about 1m space above the J-box. I was thinking I could put one on the roof rafter, but I guess not. It would have to go on an outside wall.
I am going to just go from outlet to outlet instead.

FW

jbfan 03-31-2008 12:03 PM

In the US there is no requirment to keep the area clear for 1 meter. The j-box can be mounted to the top of the rafters if you choose.


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